Stack-Pack or Lazy-jacks?

[eddystone]

The problem with lazy jacks is you can't put a sail cover on it to avoid UV damage or winter bird poo, you would need to take the sail off every time you stop sailing. I flaked the sail as it came down put sail ties on and then a canvas cover with a zip underneath. the cover was shaped for the large amount of sail by the boom and the small amount at the back of the boom. If you buy a Stack-Pack make sure it zips up.

I have a conventional sail cover that I manage to fit between the lazyjacks

 

[sparkie]

+1.


Finally, my main drops most of the way under its own weight, but there's enough left up the mast to flap around in a breeze. A light downhaul, also lead aft to a jammer solved the problem, but I do need to work on stopping the jammer jamming when the sail's going up, as the air turned blue a couple of times this season

If it's a standard Clam Cleat (or whatever the name is) you can get a cover thingy that stops it jamming when you don't want it to.

 

[vyv_cox]

The problem with lazy jacks is you can't put a sail cover on it to avoid UV damage or winter bird poo, you would need to take the sail off every time you stop sailing. I flaked the sail as it came down put sail ties on and then a canvas cover with a zip underneath. the cover was shaped for the large amount of sail by the boom and the small amount at the back of the boom. If you buy a Stack-Pack make sure it zips up.

Why ever not? As soon as the sail ties are on the lazy jacks can be slackened right off. A zip underneath isn't a great idea, it doesn't let the sail breathe to dry it and the vang gets in the way. Better to use clip type fasteners.

 

[johnalison]

Why ever not? As soon as the sail ties are on the lazy jacks can be slackened right off. A zip underneath isn't a great idea, it doesn't let the sail breathe to dry it and the vang gets in the way. Better to use clip type fasteners.

I used to leave my lazyjacks like that but found it a bit of a nuisance, and it also tended to mark the canvas. I found it just as easy to loosen the lazyjacks and bring the bight up to the mast. I would have to frap the falls anyway. I quite enjoy the routine each day.

 

[vyv_cox]

I used to leave my lazyjacks like that but found it a bit of a nuisance, and it also tended to mark the canvas. I found it just as easy to loosen the lazyjacks and bring the bight up to the mast. I would have to frap the falls anyway. I quite enjoy the routine each day.

I agree, I wouldn't leave them for any length of time like that.

 

[charles_reed]

Lazyjack frap is an interesting problem which, during the 21 years I've had a boom-bag and lazy jacks, I've never suffered.
That's because in the 3 iterations I've had the lazyjacks come from the top of the boom bag, which when empty, folds in on itself so as to occupy no more than the depth of the boom.
All these horror stories about frap and lack of leeward vision fill me with relief that I never bought a proprietary "Stackpack".
;-) smug complacency...

 

[Greenheart]

...horror stories about lack of leeward vision fill me with relief that I never bought a proprietary "Stackpack".

I think I'm the only one who mentioned the probable risk of stack-pack-flaps obscuring the view to leeward...but possibly mine is also the only dinghy anywhere with lazyjacks!

On even a small yacht, the boom's relative shortness & height should prevent a flappy stack-pack from reducing visibility. Whereas, hiking or trapezing on a dinghy's side-deck opposite a boom this low, won't leave much of a view to leeward if there's a band of cloth hanging below:

 

[Stemar]

If it's a standard Clam Cleat (or whatever the name is) you can get a cover thingy that stops it jamming when you don't want it to.

My downhaul's only about 3mm and it goes through a tube-type jammer, where you pull the line through and lift it to jam it. A kink in the line is enough to make it catch. It was something I found in my odds & ends box. I probably need to spend a few beer tokens for a proper cam cleat.

 

[sparkie]

My downhaul's only about 3mm and it goes through a tube-type jammer, where you pull the line through and lift it to jam it. A kink in the line is enough to make it catch. It was something I found in my odds & ends box. I probably need to spend a few beer tokens for a proper cam cleat.

I had one of those they're rubbish. If you don't want to spend a lot on a cam cleat, for a 3mm rope a Clamcleat and the cover thingy works well. I've used three or four. Only a few squid.

 

[ex-Gladys]

Late in here, but a deffo +1 for Stack pack, but it's even better with a fully battened main. As for the batten tangling thing, the easy way around is to ease the kicker and top the boom up (surprised no one else has mentioned it), conversely when dropping the main tighten kicker and centre the main... Job jobbed...