Sticky Fingers
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True, was on the list till I looked at one. Great deck saloon, build VG as you say. But.... the aft cabin not at all good, and I really don't like the gloomy trad interior below although a I guess aretrim might help.
Spending a year or two on the Thames
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True, was on the list till I looked at one. Great deck saloon, build VG as you say. But.... the aft cabin not at all good, and I really don't like the gloomy trad interior below although a I guess aretrim might help.
Sticky Fingers
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Presumably the bridge clearances are published in some handy guide...
Old Crusty
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oldgit
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Heresy ?
One might dare to suggest that the SC would do quite well on the Thames and whoever got the idea there are no side decks.
The ones in this video would appear to give decent and safe access round entire boat, which cannot be said for many traditional craft frequently suggested on here, including a Broom or two and small Hardys.
The beam of the boat would also make it stable when crew moving around.
In fact it makes it a better boat for use on non tidal than on tidal ?
The interior accomodation puts EVERTHING else in the shade as well.
Shame its so lightly constructed.
One might dare to suggest that the SC would do quite well on the Thames and whoever got the idea there are no side decks.
The ones in this video would appear to give decent and safe access round entire boat, which cannot be said for many traditional craft frequently suggested on here, including a Broom or two and small Hardys.
The beam of the boat would also make it stable when crew moving around.
In fact it makes it a better boat for use on non tidal than on tidal ?
The interior accomodation puts EVERTHING else in the shade as well.
Shame its so lightly constructed.
Parabordi
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Re: Heresy ?
you know Fred, sometimes you can be such a sh!tstirrer!
(PS what video?)
you know Fred, sometimes you can be such a sh!tstirrer!
(PS what video?)
Chris_d
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Re: Heresy ?
And ugly! But the deck saloon layout is a modern copy of many so called dedicated river boats.
Some of us can remember the days when Brooms were laughed at and back handed comments about should be on the sea etc...
One might dare to suggest that the SC would do quite well on the Thames and whoever got the idea there are no side decks.
The ones in this video would appear to give decent and safe access round entire boat, which cannot be said for many traditional craft frequently suggested on here, including a Broom or two and small Hardys.
The beam of the boat would also make it stable when crew moving around.
In fact it makes it a better boat for use on non tidal than on tidal ?
The interior accomodation puts EVERTHING else in the shade as well.
Shame its so lightly constructed.
And ugly! But the deck saloon layout is a modern copy of many so called dedicated river boats.
Some of us can remember the days when Brooms were laughed at and back handed comments about should be on the sea etc...
Sticky Fingers
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Re: Heresy ?
Done a bit more research on these, might need to eat my words. Some newer boats with lighter upholstery and a better layout look promising.
Anyone else especially someone with a 35-42' Nimbus, like to comment?
Done a bit more research on these, might need to eat my words. Some newer boats with lighter upholstery and a better layout look promising.
Anyone else especially someone with a 35-42' Nimbus, like to comment?
Parabordi
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CLB
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Re: Heresy ?
I know you are on a wind up Fred, but some people here will not, and will take your comments seriously. Ugly, they may be, and I tend to agree they are not the prettiest of boats. The 35 has other shortfalls as well, but being lightly built is not one of em. I have been out in some pretty rough stuff in an SC35 and came away very impressed indeed. There are plenty of other makes of boat that I would consider far, far worse, but I won't name em on here
I have been involved in boat movements and deliveries for many years so have pretty much experienced all sorts of conditions in more or less all popular makes and models. So many comments on here are based on heresay, obvious bias and limited experience that I am surprised that some people feel qualified to comment at all.
One might dare to suggest that the SC would do quite well on the Thames and whoever got the idea there are no side decks.
The ones in this video would appear to give decent and safe access round entire boat, which cannot be said for many traditional craft frequently suggested on here, including a Broom or two and small Hardys.
The beam of the boat would also make it stable when crew moving around.
In fact it makes it a better boat for use on non tidal than on tidal ?
The interior accomodation puts EVERTHING else in the shade as well.
Shame its so lightly constructed.
I know you are on a wind up Fred, but some people here will not, and will take your comments seriously. Ugly, they may be, and I tend to agree they are not the prettiest of boats. The 35 has other shortfalls as well, but being lightly built is not one of em. I have been out in some pretty rough stuff in an SC35 and came away very impressed indeed. There are plenty of other makes of boat that I would consider far, far worse, but I won't name em on here
I have been involved in boat movements and deliveries for many years so have pretty much experienced all sorts of conditions in more or less all popular makes and models. So many comments on here are based on heresay, obvious bias and limited experience that I am surprised that some people feel qualified to comment at all.
Parabordi
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Re: Heresy ?
Why do you say that?
Now on 8th boat, have owned Sealine, Princess, Freeman, Brooms, Fjord, Birchwood.
Been as far north as Willemstad, far south as Solent and all in between, favourite was Bruges yada yada.
Hearsay and bias....Now who is generalising and stereotyping..
Why do you say that?
Now on 8th boat, have owned Sealine, Princess, Freeman, Brooms, Fjord, Birchwood.
Been as far north as Willemstad, far south as Solent and all in between, favourite was Bruges yada yada.
Hearsay and bias....Now who is generalising and stereotyping..
Sticky Fingers
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Re: Heresy ?
What have I gotten into...
What have I gotten into...
Flynnbarr
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Re: Heresy ?
You have inadvertently stumbled into the Thames mobo equivalent of MAB v AWB that you find over on scuttlebutt.........
OG will insist you to buy a Princess,he has one so they are the best......
Parobi will insist you buy a Broom,he has one so they are the best.......
Oh and ffs don't buy a narrowboat or barge you'll be blackballed......
Enjoy.......
You have inadvertently stumbled into the Thames mobo equivalent of MAB v AWB that you find over on scuttlebutt.........
OG will insist you to buy a Princess,he has one so they are the best......
Parobi will insist you buy a Broom,he has one so they are the best.......
Oh and ffs don't buy a narrowboat or barge you'll be blackballed......
Enjoy.......
Sticky Fingers
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Re: Heresy ?
Yes that's what I thought Also happens on the Mobo forum....
Yes that's what I thought
Also happens on the Mobo forum....
Chris_d
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Re: Heresy ?
Yes I'd love to buy and Itama and run it up and down the Thames
Yes that's what I thought
Yes I'd love to buy and Itama and run it up and down the Thames
Parabordi
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Re: Heresy ?
Yeah i'd like to see that too, at last you will be able to helm a proper boat with propshafts!
Runs for cover
Yeah i'd like to see that too, at last you will be able to helm a proper boat with propshafts!
Runs for cover
No Regrets
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Re: Heresy ?
Much of the advice you have been given is accurate, some not quite so, although as we all know, there is no 'Perfect boat'
The SC35 is quite frankly not a River boat, and no matter anybody saying it will do a grand job etc, it can't match purpose made River boats in terms of overall practicality and pleasure of use.
The Sterndrives, high and inaccessible bow, lack of realistic side access, massively overpowered engines and 13'3" airdraft are going to cause issues, as will the excessive wash and iffy stability in close proximities with a bit of wind due to slab sides and no keel.
Sure, it floats, has great accommodation and plenty of entertaining space, so you'll survive.
There are simply better boats for the job.
Other people use them, but I don't think they know any better either, and would be astonished how much better it can be to use purpose made vessels on the Upper Thames.
But it will work, in a fashion....
Much of the advice you have been given is accurate, some not quite so, although as we all know, there is no 'Perfect boat'
The SC35 is quite frankly not a River boat, and no matter anybody saying it will do a grand job etc, it can't match purpose made River boats in terms of overall practicality and pleasure of use.
The Sterndrives, high and inaccessible bow, lack of realistic side access, massively overpowered engines and 13'3" airdraft are going to cause issues, as will the excessive wash and iffy stability in close proximities with a bit of wind due to slab sides and no keel.
Sure, it floats, has great accommodation and plenty of entertaining space, so you'll survive.
There are simply better boats for the job.
Other people use them, but I don't think they know any better either, and would be astonished how much better it can be to use purpose made vessels on the Upper Thames.
But it will work, in a fashion....
Sticky Fingers
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Re: Heresy ?
NR I understand that it and its ilk are compromised choices. That said, I'm not after a river boat, rather I want to understand what issues might arise, I'm getting that loud & clear.
Airdraft is a factor. What would be a sensible limit?
NR I understand that it and its ilk are compromised choices. That said, I'm not after a river boat, rather I want to understand what issues might arise, I'm getting that loud & clear.
Airdraft is a factor. What would be a sensible limit?
Sticky Fingers
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CLB
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Re: Heresy ?
Ah, now I understand why you have to leap of the bow like a demented lemming, your prop shafts are stopping the stern getting close to the bank. You want a proper boat with stern gear you can lift
Yeah i'd like to see that too, at last you will be able to helm a proper boat with propshafts!
Runs for cover
Ah, now I understand why you have to leap of the bow like a demented lemming, your prop shafts are stopping the stern getting close to the bank. You want a proper boat with stern gear you can lift
CLB
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Re: Heresy ?
Yeah, I would have so much more fun on a Freeman 26
Sterndrives = good for shallow water and bankside moorings
High bow = never a problem as I am skilled enough to handle a boat so that my crew don't need to leap off
Lack of side decks = Have you ever been on an SC35
Overpowered engines = no problem at all, like 90% of other boats on teh Thames with over powered engines
Air Draft = I made it to Oxford, not many can go further
Excessive Wash = now you are just making stuff up
Iffy Stability = Have you ever been on an SC35, again
You would find it hard to astonish me regarding boats. I have even extensively cruised in net curtain equipped Brooms
Yeah, I would have so much more fun on a Freeman 26
Sterndrives = good for shallow water and bankside moorings
High bow = never a problem as I am skilled enough to handle a boat so that my crew don't need to leap off
Lack of side decks = Have you ever been on an SC35
Overpowered engines = no problem at all, like 90% of other boats on teh Thames with over powered engines
Air Draft = I made it to Oxford, not many can go further
Excessive Wash = now you are just making stuff up
Iffy Stability = Have you ever been on an SC35, again
You would find it hard to astonish me regarding boats. I have even extensively cruised in net curtain equipped Brooms
