Speed Limit or would No Wake Zones be better

[rickp]

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"write only" not sure what you mean /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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People write their opinions but won't be swayed by what other people have said so it just rehashes the same arguments as the last n threads on the subject.

Rick

 

[SnaxMuppet]

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People write their opinions but won't be swayed by what other people have said so it just rehashes the same arguments as the last n threads on the subject.

Rick

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I don't think that accusation can be made regarding this thread and the previous thread that I started on the subject.

I believe that we have had a great discussion on this topic and there have been many positions changed as a result. Mine in particular! At the end of my thread I was more than happy to accept that I had been persuaded by the argument and I have changed my opinion as a result. I was all for legislation but I now can see that this isn't the answer. That change of opinion was as a direct result of the discussion on the thread.

Also, this thread has raised new points over the last one and in my opinion it isn't just a rehash of the last one.

I do know what you mean though. Issues such as this are liable to illicit strong opinions that are difficult to change.

 

[oceanfroggie]

I used to think that too (ie speed limit), but have come to the conclusion that many vessel types don't have a clear way of determining their speed and the water speed v's SOG adds confusion for some.

But everybody can look behind any vessel type and see the level of wake they are generating - it's that easy. Setting arbitary speed limits does not take into account the effects of different hull shapes and designs. Some displacement hulls will hardly create a ripple at 9kt whereas some planing hulls can dig big holes and generate a fair wake at only 6kt. It's not rocket science a) to understand wake is what causes folk problems but not speed, and b) wake is easy to see and therefore control without instrumentation. NO WAKE is easier to enforce and evidence (ie photo/video), no speed guns needed nor the SOG v Speed confusion in court. An arbitary minimum speed limit is also useful in harbour areas and marinas for collision safety, but "NO WAKE" zones should be priority no 1, as it now is in many US coastal harbours.

 

[Lakesailor]

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People write their opinions but won't be swayed by what other people have said so it just rehashes the same arguments as the last n threads on the subject.

[/ QUOTE ] The same can be said about any "debate" on here.

Global Warming, for starters.

 

[oceanfroggie]

I tought some nutter, but respected nutter of a scientist has recently claimed the planet as a whole has actually started cooling, as a result of a warming cycle. Oh I dunno. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Kawasaki]

Not Debating, Thread Drift.

To get things back on Track..

We have a No Wake Zone.
It's just above Me.
It's otherwise Known as "My Lad's Bedroom"!
He told Me too keep Cool.
I just told Him, He was on a warning cycle.
To jump on His Motorcycle, warm it up and nip down the Offie for His Old Man,s Grog. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
What is it with offspring?
Is it Global? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[oceanfroggie]

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[Haven't-a-Clue]

I have to say that when there are other peeps about, I check my wake very frequently, so's not to annoy anyone. I just think it's considerate, not to mention I don't want to get into an arguement/be thought of as an idiot. I mean, I am an idiot I suspect when it comes to boating matters, but the less I prove it to be true, the better I feel.

 

[oceanfroggie]

Ditto

 

[Giblets]

We have the same problem in Portsmouth and ask many peeps to slow down because of their wake. Invariably they nearly all show 10 fingers (indicating their speed - I hope /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif). We try and point out, where possible, that 10 knots is the maximum speed limit not the target limit. When we ask them to look behind them the majority are quite surprised at the havoc being caused by the wake.

Luckily we have legislation in place to combat the wake problem viz:

Vessels to be navigated with care and caution.

9. The Master of a vessel navigating the Dockyard Port shall navigate the vessel with care and caution and in such a manner as shall not cause annoyance to the occupants of any other vessel or cause damage or danger to any other vessel or to any moorings or other property.

Although most folk know about the speed limits, not many are aware of this Rule (until now that is /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

 

[oldgit]

New section to RYA powerboat course?

No wake does it for for me.
Still adamantly believe that the worst offenders are those fortunate enough to have been able to jump the "start with a titchy little boat" and work up type route.
If you have ever been in something small and been thrown around by something big,you tend to remember the experience.
Do not believe that most excessive wash is deliberatly caused,just that the skipper responsible has no idea of the problems resulting from it.
A compulsory experience of being in an anchored 8ft dinghy,while being repeatly passed at high speed by the choosen sea schools 35 ft gin place,would be a neat idea perhaps ?
And if their looking for somebody the drive the gin place............... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif