Specify your dream-boat (DON'T JUST NAME A DESIGN WHICH IS ALREADY OUT THERE)

Looks handy for making tea on, and a nice central position. Wouldn't want to try and use it as a handhold by mistake while bobbing around.

40 foot
Aluminium (unpainted)
Deck saloon or high freeboard with flush deck
Huge genoa on bowsprit
another furler with working jib
maybe something like twin masts with jibs only or freedom rig
Electric propulsion with small diesel generator and batteries
super insulated with spray foam
Compartmentalized (just two)
one decent heads
fin with bulb keel
doghouse
central heating
 
causeway said:
Looks handy for making tea on, and a nice central position. Wouldn't want to try and use it as a handhold by mistake while bobbing around.
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It just looks like so obviously an afterthought. And the mounting looks like it belongs in an air-conditioning plant room, not a habitable space.

Plus it's a hundred year old stove design (or a new one in that style) hung off the curved galley unit of a modern yacht. This stove belongs in the homely, chunky, white-painted cabin of an old (or old-style) gaffer, while the modern yacht should have something stylish and understated in polished stainless. And then put it somewhere sensible, in the corner of the saloon, rather than in the main gangway by the galley.

Pete
 
The problem is that I need a whole fleet.

For my sailing around the Greek islands boat, I need a sailboat about 30 feet long with accommodations that would appeal to my family. The boat should have a Bimini top to shade the cockpit, and a sugar-scoop boarding area on the transom. It should be designed for minimal maintenance. It would need a good inboard diesel engine as my family doesn't have tolerance for long bashes to windward. I'd rather have a conventional propeller shaft than a saildrive. I'd prefer that the rudder have a skeg to protect it from damage. Even if funds weren't an issue, I'd prefer to buy a pre-owned boat so that I might worry less about leaving the boat for long periods in a boatyard thousands of miles from where I live. Something like the Moody 31 that I saw in another thread being advertised for sale by one of the charter companies would work well.

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For my sailing around Great Britain boat, I'd want a modest-sized sailboat that I could readily single-hand. I'd want a twin-keel boat so that I could visit drying harbors. A good dodger around the forward end of the cockpit would be a higher priority than a Bimini top. Again, even if I were independently wealthy, I'd prefer to buy a pre-owned boat to minimize the investment. A Westerly Centaur would be a good choice, but I actually might be able to get my family to join me for parts of the trip if I had a Westerly Konsort.

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For my voyaging around the Atlantic boat, I might stick with the Moody 31, but I'd be doing the trip single-handed, so I might prefer something more robust with less elaborate accommodations. Good sailing performance would be a priority. I'd want a deep keel and a well-protected rudder. Contessa 32s are nice, but they are pricey. A viable alternative might be a Yankee 30.

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For my sailing around the Chesapeake Bay boat, I'd want a modest cruiser-racer with good light-air sailing performance. The boat would be used mostly for day sails, so elaborate accommodations wouldn't be needed. A Bimini top over the cockpit would be a priority. The boat would be small enough that an outboard motor would be practical, but I'd want it to be readily accessible from the cockpit, perhaps in a transom notch. Even though the Chesapeake Bay has many shallow areas, I'd still prefer a fixed keel with adequate draft for good windward performance. A Ranger 26 would meet the requirements.

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Finally, there is the boat that fits the cold, hard reality of my life. It can fit under the low bridge that spans the creek just downstream from my house, and it is fast enough to actually get me someplace during the two hours that I have on Saturday morning before the family gets up and wonders where I've gone, but it won't impress many members of this forum.

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Sorry Interloper with all the pretty boats on the market you do seem to have picked 3 very bland looking yachts to dream about- just shows everyone is different and buys for different reasons I guess. However you can get some beautiful yachts with lurvely luscious lines that will do the job just as well!
 
Well, to some extent my dream boat is pretty close, we've nearly finished building it!

Actually, to be my true dream boat, it will be a few years down the line, building a 37 or 42' version I guess. The other problem is that someone else will (hopefully) own this one! Still, maybe one day I'll be able to hang on to one for a while...

So size is flexible, but:

Easy to maintain,
Fast,
Singlehand-able, but rewarding with crew,
Beautiful,
And with everything done as well as possible, no corners cut!
 
JClarkes said:
After selling my boat I would take anything at the minute to get back out on the water. Weddings, new house and boat dont mix! Bye Bye Boat :(
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Not always the case I have managed to get sorted engagement. bigger boat, new sails (among other bits), now a house the wedding and white goods for house are on hold....

interloper said:
The problem is that I need a whole fleet.
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+1

Zagato said:
Sorry Interloper with all the pretty boats on the market you do seem to have picked 3 very bland looking yachts to dream about- just shows everyone is different and buys for different reasons I guess. However you can get some beautiful yachts with lurvely luscious lines that will do the job just as well!
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Good examples and none are bad boats in my eyes, if I had a fleet of boats I would also want simple lo maintenance because I would want to manage/ skipper them all..

As for the one not made yet...
Steel 45' -60' long ketch or schooner rig (sail-able short handed 1 or 2 up), dog house, probably have to have lifting keel arrangement (compromise but sailing is important that needs stuff down stairs). Ice capable 1 double cabin 3 twin cabins with good sea berths preferably so one can be converted into double. for guests) fairly self sufficient and efficient...
Equipped for high and low lats (She likes polar bears, me wants to see penguins)...
 
Small dutch coaster ,probably pre war.Ketch rigged with juck rig on the main mast and bermucian mizzen.Maintain existing accomodation and bridge obviously witha new engine and gennys etc.Maintain hold space and focsle as workshop and living space.Hydraulic systems and davits fro samll sailing dinghy and proper launch so can anchour off........
 
Aluminium hull/deck, underwater hullform similar in size and shape to an Open 50, but with a garage for a small RIB built into the transom, and anchor in bow roller but with chain led aft in tunnel to windlass well aft near mast, with chain locker below. Twin RM style bulbed keels and twin rudders plus some side to side water ballasting. Much smaller and deeper cockpit than an Open 50, single wheel steering with main plus spare ram drive autopilots below. Small deck saloon centrally, with internal steering via autopilot. Only the central part of the hull used for comfortable accommodation for normally 1/2 maximum 4. Two watertight bulkheads forward, space between two bulkheads sail/fender storage only. Rig with carbon mast, twin electric roller furling forestays and in-boom reefing for a roached main. Waterjet rather than tunnel type bow thruster, and twin diesels of about 30 hp each with Saildrives and feathering props in front of each rudder.

Or a new-build wooden Bristol Channel pilot cutter, and the money to always pay for the painting and varnishing ......
 
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Zagato said:
Sorry Interloper with all the pretty boats on the market you do seem to have picked 3 very bland looking yachts to dream about- just shows everyone is different and buys for different reasons I guess. However you can get some beautiful yachts with lurvely luscious lines that will do the job just as well!
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You are absolutely right. If money were no object, it would have to be something like this:
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jwilson said:
Aluminium hull/deck, underwater hullform similar in size and shape to an Open 50, but with a garage for a small RIB built into the transom, and anchor in bow roller but with chain led aft in tunnel to windlass well aft near mast, with chain locker below. Twin RM style bulbed keels and twin rudders plus some side to side water ballasting. Much smaller and deeper cockpit than an Open 50, single wheel steering with main plus spare ram drive autopilots below. Small deck saloon centrally, with internal steering via autopilot. Only the central part of the hull used for comfortable accommodation for normally 1/2 maximum 4. Two watertight bulkheads forward, space between two bulkheads sail/fender storage only. Rig with carbon mast, twin electric roller furling forestays and in-boom reefing for a roached main. Waterjet rather than tunnel type bow thruster, and twin diesels of about 30 hp each with Saildrives and feathering props in front of each rudder.

Or a new-build wooden Bristol Channel pilot cutter, and the money to always pay for the painting and varnishing ......
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I suspect the pilot cutter would be the cheaper option even with the painting and varnishing.
 
Outermer 40/43
With carbon fibre wing mast
Only one double bed... no guest beds
Very large cockpit to sit in or walk about
Smokes when doing over 10 Kts



Ah yes... am sitting on one right now!:o
 
I'm for easy to handle dream boats as well. The bigger they get, the more you need other people to get involved. My dream (and I am a mobo'er at the moment) would be a heavy built motor sailer that actually sailed upwind, that you could see over the coachroof when helming outside (I am a bit vertically challenged), with electric winches or a self tacking set up, huge inverters so I could run anything I wanted anytime. I am just worred that I have described that plug ugly Island Packet motor sailer. Ah Well
 
There are so many standard designs out there that there are boats already being built that woulds suit most people with little alteration
Whilst some dream of large old gaffers ( though what the attraction is I have no. Idea) just think of the crew you would need
By the time you had filled it with Phillipino crew that you do not know it would be such an alien place you would not like it unless you had been bought up in that environment & were used to it
I want a single hander that performs well & has what i want & i can sail when i want with no hassle
Actually i already have one! So no need to dream!
 
Daydream believer said:
There are so many standard designs out there that there are boats already being built that woulds suit most people with little alteration
Whilst some dream of large old gaffers ( though what the attraction is I have no. Idea) just think of the crew you would need
By the time you had filled it with Phillipino crew that you do not know it would be such an alien place you would not like it unless you had been bought up in that environment & were used to it
I want a single hander that performs well & has what i want & i can sail when i want with no hassle
Actually i already have one! So no need to dream!
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That's not a bad point to make.

I am very fond of pointing out that although other people's boats might be newer/faster/shiner, the view when they are sipping a rum-punch/g&t/wine in the anchorage is EXACTLY the same as the one we enjoy as well.
 
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