Keen_Ed
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What's wrong with non-slip paint? Kiwigrip or similar?
Something like a Hallberg Rassy but without teak decks?!
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What's wrong with non-slip paint? Kiwigrip or similar?
dunedin
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Yes - because many buyers don’t want teak, like the OP who started this thread - so quite sensible by Arcona
Quandary
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When I was ordering our Finngulf (about 6 months before commissioning) I stated that I did not want the optional teak on the side decks, it was explained that they had a policy of only supplying the boat with the teak deck option, if I wanted to wait until production exceeded orders they might be able to do one then.
As it turned out the teak deck was brilliant and left me really converted, particularly as I am now sailing a boat without it. But BMW have been doing this with their cars for decades, despite the length and cost of the options list they do not import a 'standard' car.
As it turned out the teak deck was brilliant and left me really converted, particularly as I am now sailing a boat without it. But BMW have been doing this with their cars for decades, despite the length and cost of the options list they do not import a 'standard' car.
jwilson
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Sybarite
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I remember that the HR agent in France (at the time Chantiers Vanek at La Trinité) did the wooden decks themselves if the client wanted them. But that was at least 20 years ago.
Sybarite
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Also depends how far back you go. I have photos of the Rasmus 35 without teak decks.
Sybarite
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I redid my cockpit seats with the grooved wooden composite you see on outside terraces. It is brilliant, much better and stronger than the original teak.
A friend with the necessary equipment shaped them as required.
ZombieManatee
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That's odd, about 50% of the FG's I've seen on the local waters are without teak. Many finns insist on no teak, even though it's quite well suited for the area. I don't even think I've seen a 331 with teak... But that only holds true for the more recent models of smaller size.
I would add Saare to the list. They are built in Estonia and many of the people from finngulf are involved. They are meant as direct competitors to HR's and Najads, so slightly more emphasis on cruising than arconas, but they are not bricks like older HR's either. Very sea kindly, sturdy things that can shift their weight along quite nicely. They come standard with teak decks (and a whole lot of other stuff too compared to some competitors) but saare goes out of their way to provide what the customer wants. If they are willing to pretty much completely rearrange the interior or drop the cockpit floor a few inches, I'm certain ditching teak will be no problem.
The 41 AC without teak but cork instead.. I wouldn't mind one of those.
Ludd
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My Nab35/Rasmus 1973 has a brilliant moulded in non slip pattern that still performs as it was meant to do. Still gets a bit warm underfoot though when 40 centigrade is exceeded.
BrianH
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Most of the over 900 HR Monsuns built from 1974 were without a teak deck. A German friend here in my Italian marina had one but it was painted with non-slip and very nice it looked too. He died recently and when his widow put it up for sale it went instantly - I don't know the price.
The Monsun was a model produced soon after when Rassy took over the company, moving into the old Hallberg premises on the island of Ellös in 1972. Another retired friend here in Italy was working for them at the time. What he tells me was that the company had serious problems laying teak decks on the then relatively new construction material GRP and decided that there were no logical grounds for drilling hundreds of holes into a perfectly watertight deck to screw the planks on and continued producing yachts with non-teak decks. However, the market demanded teak decks so Hallberg-Rassy, as the company was now named, began producing teak-decked yachts as standard.
I have every intention of tearing off the damned teak stuff on my HR 94 and paint with KiwiGrip after epoxy filling the screw-holes. Having seen such a project in the marina here I am convinced this is the way to go.
westhinder
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bbg
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Bavaria?
DJE
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I could not possibly disagree.
http://www.mikelucasyachting.co.uk/used-boats-for-sale/boat-details.php?Make=Starlight&Model=39&BoatID=6357202
Quandary
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Had a look at Yachtworld, about a dozen listed for sale worldwide, two with the teak only in the cockpit both from 1980s. My experience is limited to the UK and to this century so what I said is not exactly untrue? They only started to be available new here in about 2005-6. They were great boats, fast and well built, with proper attention to every detail, shame they went out of business when HR etc. in a similar price bracket survived. Really regret the decision to sell ours.
Ludd
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Why not look for a HR with deck that's shot and make an offer favtoronv I.n cost of replacement. THEN use the money to strop off teak,flocoat and the texture the deck then paint with non-slip paint. I' bet there's someone who specialises in doing that.
horatio_nelson
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Concerto
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Exactly my thoughts. This summer I saw an old Bavaria 36 that had the thin teak deck panels removed, the recesses were filled to deck level and then non-slip painted. Very smart and all done by the owner.
Ludd
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Minchsailor
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Kiwigrip gives a fantastic finish. Time consuming to do it well, but the substrate does not to be perfect as it does with paint.
doris
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11 years ago HR told me absolutely NO to a non slip/non teak deck. I asked again last year and still the same. They are designed to have teak so that's that.
C Yachts are IMHO better than HR and nicer. You will get a 12.50 sub £200k.