Some problems we have encountered for you experts to cogitate on.

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During our recent sail to the Algarve and back, the following probs were encountered;-

1)There is an anchor locker drain hole in the stem, about two feet above the waterline which when hitting waves at any reasonable speed sends a jet of water straight down the chain pipe. Any ideas on what to do?
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You can get small shroud plates which fit over the drain holes and produce a negative pressure and effectively drains water out of the locker.


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2) The water tanks have their air vents opening into the anchor locker, quite high up. But, our bow was under water for quite alot of the time, and the water was contaminated; very noticeably so, even the full tank we hadn't started using yet. Cutting the pipes before they exit outside should do the trick, (and blocking the exit holes) as water doesn't get that far up the pipe, as far as I can tell. Unless anyone has a better idea?[ QUOTE ]


I take it that the watertank is in the foot and the breather is a flexible pipe.
Try putting in a gooseneck, if that fails, re-route the pipe to deck-level where seawater cannot get.

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3) Who can tell me of a good company to go to to have our windows refurbished or replaced (acryuc in aluminium frames)?[ QUOTE ]


I've got an address in the other computer at home - never used the company but have had good reports of them. If you need a contact (the[ QUOTE ]
y're in Lancs) PM me.

I'd suggest replacing with toughened or safety glass rather than acrylic.

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4) Has anyone else had trouble with Navman wind direction instruments, or logs? I know about the depth-sounder probs, we will soon be on our third one of those.[ QUOTE ]

No, but I've had so many anomalous reading from a wide range of wind instruments that I tend to ignore their misinformation and rely on a masthead indicator

5) For those of you with coppercoat or similar copper impregnated epoxy antifouling, [ QUOTE ]
does yours work? We apparently have to burnish or resurface the stuff every year, which wasn't mentioned when we bought it. So we have just visited the scrubbing machine in Haslar, which totally failed to remove the stuff. It is THAT bad on poor Cornish Maid! [ QUOTE ]


My boat had the Scott-Bader precursor of Coppercoat. I soon got fed up with the necessity of beaching and rubbing down the whole bottom bi-annually and just antifouled over the whole lot.

Some of the problems referred to suggest your boat is trimmed down by the head or just overloaded - the latter something that happens with all cruising boats.
Your simplest remedy may well be to chuack a few things out.
 
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<<Anchor drains .... if accessible - you could fit valves just inside the hull ? Otherwise soft wood plugs from outside to seal them off. They are a real pain sometimes as good idea when inshore waters etc. .... but serious wave stuff ... close 'em>>

Can't agree, what happens to the boat when the greenies over the bow fill the chain locker? If the chain locker is below waterline you need to fit an auto-switched electric pump (and curse the architect: I'd not believe Angus Primrose would make such a basic error).
 
Hi Becky,
I'm certainly not an expert on the coppercoat and as I've said, ours is working fine despite it still having a brown colour below the waterline. It has gone blue / green where it is exposed to air.
I began to wonder if we've just been lucky in not attracting growth etc - but on pulling up the dinghy yesterday which has been towed behind for the past three / four weeks - I had to take a scraper to it to remove hudreds of barnacles.
So - hoping you get the issues sorted - and I'll keep on checking ours daily in this 30 degree heat!
Cheers
JOHN
 
Greenies over bow ...

OK - I forgot to mention that I am a believer in the old Sea practice of sealing of the hawse .... and spurling. Very easily done with yacht naval pipes .... rag and notched soft wood plug.

I never said do not drain the locker at all - now that would be silly !!
As to the overboards ... the problem here is the ingress of water not from above deck - but via the outlet in the hull. So an auto bilge pump is not much use via that overboard ... so would be better employed exhausting via another point .... possibly up the naval pipe !!! onto deck.

I agree that A.P. is not one to fault normally ... but this boat has a particular problem through whatever reason and I still feel closing of the drains and using a different method when offshore is the way I would tackle it. Just because a boat comes with a design - doesn't mean that its right in all occasions ....

So - change the way locker drains for offshore work, close of the old free-flow drains, block off the water tank vent into the locker and re-route to under deck or filler pipe, check sealing ofd windows ....

Copperbottom A/F .... is there really an all-round answer to fouling ???? I don't think so - there will always be occasions where it works, other when it doesn't. Seems an awful lot of money to have a doubtful solution ....

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Did you REALLY have to spread the page so wide ????

I absolutely detest when someone spreads the page so wide by posting in a real large picture or text that flows out of control ............ sorry Charles - but the format and flow of your post is terrible and does not read easy ... spreads the page OF screen, why didn't you just cut and paste and keep general normal page size and formatting - are you trying to stamp a mark or point here ???

Friendly moan .... from a Grumpy old fart !!
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Charles,

The problem is caused by using "quote" without "/quote". Each successive "quote" further increases the indent if it doesn't have a "/quote" to reduce it again.
 
Hi Becky

Pleased to hear you enjoyed the trip - well done!

Our tank vents are set into the cockpit coaming just inboard of the sprayhood and as high up as they can be. I don't think there are any non-return valves. I would be worried about having them exit into the chain locker as we also take quite a lot of water in when beating.
 
For new windows I'd recommend MWF in Burnham-on-Crouch. We replaced our acrylic windows with toughened safety glass ones in January. The person to speak to is Rex Tylor on 01621 786413. Good quality windows and a really helpful and speedy service, (relatively cheap too).

Heather
 
We may be at cross-purposes

because I believe the small Moodys had their locker floor above the LWL as does my boat.

Not ideal for CofG but better than a hawse-pipe leading the seas to the bilges.

Hence the need for the baffles over the drains, if you don't have those everytime the boat digs in her bows you get a pressure jet into the chain locker which doesn't have time to drain out between crests.

Once, having anchored a couple of times in the overcrowded Morbihan, the holes got filled and the boat adopted a very extraordinary bows-down posture.

Ever since I've eschewed anchoring and made my way straight up to Vannes.

I can assure you an auto-electric bilge pump is about the only way to keep a dribble at bay.

I had a beat down from Toulon to Argelés in October 2003 in NW6/7 veering N.
The cockpit locker on my boat is on the port side and on starboard tack it drains slowly if at all. In the 13 years I'd had it I'd never had a problem. On this occasion (you know what the seas can be like in Golfe de Lion) I had constant heads of seas breaking into the cockpit and finding their way below. The resultant flood downstairs killed the voltage transformer on the fridge compressor. I fitted the pump at the bottom of the locker and last year under very similar conditions across the Tyrrhenian (I was bound for Bonifacio but went to Porto Vecchio 'cos I didn't fancy the forecast SW9 gusts in Bouches) had a virtually dry boat when I finally anchored.
 
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