My C5 diesel Citroen manages 600
miles on a tankful quite easily
I doubt that 10 minutes is 0%-100%...probably a oft used metric like 20%-80%....don’t forget Toyota has already been done for false advertising
1. I can see that 500w might be tricky. We fit 280w on the main hull of our 30ft tri comfortably though. 2 of them are stuck down to the deck, 1 fixed when needed to the top of the sprayhood. That one's dedicated to charging our electric tender outboard. Being a tri, we could get another 200w on each outrigger, meaning self sufficient electric power is viable for us.
If the Toyota claims are true, marinas would only need some charging docks - the equivalent of fuel docks that you tie up to for 15 mins. I assume that whilst each outlet on the marina is rated for 15A if they all are connected and drawing 15A that something trips?
essentially you are describing hybrids which are available now and are a serious consideration for new boats with big budgets! Some will have regen allowing them to charge whilst sailing.
I think 500W might be fine if you are in the med. if you are in the U.K. where everyone claims 40% of their diesel is used on heating, and outside of summer daylight hours are limited 500w might not be enough - especially if you actually use the boat rather than leave it tied up for 6 days a week.
TBH I doubt anyone will cough up for a charging dock, the premium for which would be sizeable, unless electric stinkpots start appearing. For yacht auxiliaries 16A is pretty much good enough.
your normal 13A socket at home can put out ~3kW, a proper home car charger will put out 7.5kW, some street chargers are about that but most of the smaller ones are 22kW, faster chargers of 50kW are fairly common (a big box size of a wardrobe), then motorway chargers are available in much larger sizes - 180kW+ already widely available. BUT many cars can’t charge at anything like that speed, so if turned into reality the Toyota claim is significant. Nobody is suggesting the would be charged at home at this speed - but you don’t need to because you will be asleep when the cheapest electric is available anyway.
‘Electric stinkpots’...a difficult term to justify
Are you claiming that without the diesel smut masking it all there won't be a whiff of something bilgy?‘Electric stinkpots’...a difficult term to justify
Powered by wind maybe. Penfold may be right to worry.‘Electric stinkpots’...a difficult term to justify
I know this is not an electric car thread (we have a doozy of one in the Lounge)... I live near the Med and there are electric cars from all over Europe here for the summer...they somehow manage it
Newer EVs usually do over 200 miles between charges, even over 300 miles. I did a long run from Ely - Manchester - Edinburgh - St Andrews - Edinburgh - York - Ely over 4 days without any problems at all on a nominal range of 240 miles. Charging at a motorway high-capacity charger only takes as long as having a pee and getting a cup of coffee, and hotels increasingly advertize charging facilities. Even a 13 amp socket will give a charge overnight. I can easily do the run to and from my boat on a single charge - it's about 180 miles round trip.
It was more the suggestion that a driver would stop every two hours than the electric bit that I was disconcerted by. We were obviously something of a corner case.
I suspect most marinas would gladly get rid of their petrol and diesel if it wasn’t to keep the mobos happy too!
When I was young and stupid I used to regularly do a 5.5-6 hr journey and saw it as a badge of honour to make it all the way without stopping and the fuel warning light on.
Only when driving our own cars would we think it’s acceptable to put a human being sitting in one place operating heavy machinery at speed for 8hrs - probably after having spent a long day working/sailing etc. if a truck / bus driver did that we’d be outraged.