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What ever anyones says .its madness when you ring a marina and thry have space but wont allow you to pay for it telling you its first come. You can end up being out in bad weather chasing somewhere else. This could lead easily to an incident for anyone and its reckless. Portlands policy of all places.
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Interesting stuff this is for me. Just back from 8 nights in the Solent and Poole. Expected anchoring but got 3 marina nights including to my surprise finally getting into Yarmouth as we were passing. Most relevant though was not great weather was forecast for Poole on the weekend. I phoned the Poole Quay Boat haven in the morning....they were full but operating a Waiting list. Much to my surprise I actually heard my phone in the evening as we were about to anchor in South Deep. They had a space and would we like it. Yes please. That was brilliant for us and they also squeezed us in the next night on another cancellation. So it worked for both sides but just as well I heard my phone.
 

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You can end up being out in bad weather chasing somewhere else. This could lead easily to an incident for anyone and its reckless.

As I say, is that any better or worse than a boat being told it must leave the marina into bad weather because the marina needs that space for someone else who has booked it?
 

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From a previous poster "the trouble with Yarmouth I suspect is some book,pay up their 100 squid and then don’t turn up." Maybe his is bigger than yours?
That same poster was in a "lovely 15m berthon pontoon amongst the larger mobo and Hallberg/spirit yachts " so unlikely to be over 21m LOA but sure, if they are over 21m then £100 is correct. I doubt many people with 21m yachts are concerned by losing £100 though. They also wouldn't be occupying one of the normal bookable berths being discussed here (they can't even book online over 14m).
https://www.yarmouth-harbour.co.uk/lib/uploads/harbour-dues-and-charges-2021-revised-may-21-1.pdf
 

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Not meant as criticism but I'm amazed that this is how the other half (or maybe even 90%) sail. Having purchased 40' of Benjenbav with multiple heads, refrigerators, memory foam double beds, probably Rocna anchor, etc., the biggest problem then appears to be where to tie it up overnight with access to toilet facilities and restaurants? And is it really £100 a night to do this?
There seems to be a bit of an obsession amongst many Solent sailors with pubs and restaurants. Somebody rafted on us in Yarmouth recently saying "We're going to an Italian place - don't know what it's like but everywhere else was booked up." We bought a few bits at the deli and ate on board.

At this time of year in the Solent we're happy to anchor or pick up a buoy where we can. If we turn up somewhere and get an alongside berth then that's a bonus, but there are always alternatives - nothing's very far. And if the weather is bad enough for turning boats away to be dangerous, then I guarantee that the fair weather crowd will be at home and there will be lots of space. A bit of rain puts a lot of them off.
 
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Completely agree, I've always been in favour of booking in advance and risking losing money. There are simply too many boats to risk just turning up and hoping these days, with the exception of Yarmouth where they can safely fill the harbour right back to the entrance!
As I say I dont mind it in the summer for the family holiday, as so far we haven't gone too far. For our 10m boat it was costing just over £40 a night, I think that probably equates to campsite level of fees. Unfortunately we didn't coordinate eating out bookings but that doesn't bother us happy to knock something up on board and the money saved comes in handy for ice creams, drinks and overpriced meals when we do find somewhere. We put the dogs in with the dog sitter and on a per night basis this was the most expensive part of our holiday!
 

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There seems to be a bit of an obsession amongst many Solent sailors with pubs and restaurants.
It's about going to new places and trying new things. If you just want company and deli food on board why even leave your berth? Nice restaurants are nice to go to and enjoy. Anchoring is nice too, but it's a different activity. One allows you to peacefully enjoy nature while the other allows you to easily explore and try things out in different towns. I also occasionally go by train or car and stay in a hotel. Different strokes and all that :)
 

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Whatever happened to anchors, dinghies and Fray Bentos pies?
Nothing - still there. However places to anchor in the Solent are as limited as marina berths, particularly at weekends and if you have a deeper draft boat. Having said that I have been going backwards and forwards there for most of my sailing life and can probably count on my fingers the number of times I have paid in a marina or harbour. Last year I took my daughter and 2 children there and got a super berth in Yarmouth (£40). My daughter reminded me that the last time we were there, there were no walk ashore pontoons and the harbourmaster came round with a ticket machine like they use on old buses. Less than a fiver! how times have changed.
 

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I've just spent a few days in the Solent and ringing Yarmouth and Lymington both said that all pre-bookable berths were taken, so it was a turn up and see what was left. Boths places had spaces mid week for those not booking. Personally, I think that they have the mix about right for pre-booking and just turning up. How far ahead the pre-bookable are booked I didn't ask, but assume that it will settle down once the schools have gone back though weekends will still be busy.
 

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As I say, is that any better or worse than a boat being told it must leave the marina into bad weather because the marina needs that space for someone else who has booked it?
Not sure if a marina would send a boat out in bad weather. If they did it would be pretty poor.

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That means to me - losing half a days sailing and risk turning up and then being turned away.
Why? I've just had to get to Arbroath before the lock in at a certain state of the tide. While the 0330 start from Eyemouth was early a cracking sail over the Firth of Forth was had.

Just wish the sunrise had been nicer.
 

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Slight drift of the subject; Several years ago shortly after the hurricane that decimated several pontoons and moorings in the Southern UK I visited Cherbourg en route to St Vaast.
Cherbourg also had suffered with several visitor pontoons destroyed. We were directed to two large buoys where there were already three or four visiting yachts moored to in 'daisy-fashion'. A few more yachts came after us as well until there were about 10 all moored to the same buoy, fenders between each yacht and bow first to the buoy; it was a simple matter to exit the 'daisy', when wanted , releasing the bow line and springs and going astern.
We spent two nights there at no charge. it seemed a cheap and sensible option for places like Yarmouth for instance to assist later arrivals to be accomodated overnight at least. The outside buoys could be upgraded to do this when maintenace is next done.
Sometime later I saw a Westerly Owners rally in Osborne Bay that moored in similar fashion, though I don' t remember how they did theirs without the permanent buoy.

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Slight drift of the subject; Several years ago shortly after the hurricane that decimated several pontoons and moorings in the Southern UK I visited Cherbourg en route to St Vaast.
Cherbourg also had suffered with several visitor pontoons destroyed. We were directed to two large buoys where there were already three or four visiting yachts moored to in 'daisy-fashion'. A few more yachts came after us as well until there were about 10 all moored to the same buoy, fenders between each yacht and bow first to the buoy; it was a simple matter to exit the 'daisy', when wanted , releasing the bow line and springs and going astern.
We spent two nights there at no charge. it seemed a cheap and sensible option for places like Yarmouth for instance to assist later arrivals to be accomodated overnight at least. The outside buoys could be upgraded to do this when maintenace is next done.
Sometime later I saw a Westerly Owners rally in Osborne Bay that moored in similar fashion, though I don' t remember how they did theirs without the permanent buoy.

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I wouldn't want to do that off Yarmouth, it can get pretty lumpy out there and very strong tides - I can imagine it would be chaos. I also struggle to understand why anyone would pay for the buoys off Yarmouth; it's not very sheltered and also there are many good anchorages around there e.g. Keyhaven, Totland Bay etc
 

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Why? I've just had to get to Arbroath before the lock in at a certain state of the tide. While the 0330 start from Eyemouth was early a cracking sail over the Firth of Forth was had.

Just wish the sunrise had been nicer.
Because not everyone’s partner and guests are salty sea dogs who are happy to get up at 2.00am. I recently sailed from Ardfern to Falmouth in one hit leaving at 10.00pm. Loved it. My wife, however, wants to get up, have a shower and breakfast and proceed out at her convenience. Who are you or I to say that she should not enjoy her holiday time in her own way.
 

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Not sure if a marina would send a boat out in bad weather. If they did it would be pretty poor.

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How could they not though? Assuming the marina is full (otherwise there's no issue either with first come first served, or bookings), if there's one boat in a berth, and another who has reserved it en route, either the boat that's in the berth has to leave, or the boat that's coming can't get in.

You seem to be arguing that a boat that has reserved must be allowed in as it's unsafe for them to be out there, and also that it's unsafe for the berth to be cleared. The two are mutually exclusive - space is of course finite.
 
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