Whitelighter
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All I know is the Peters Cal'dor is not subject to the administration proceedings against PetersOpal as it is a seperate company. How long they can survive on their own however is a different question all together
So Peters Opal has gone pop
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Twister_Ken
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And if the administrators can prove that money was going from BA Peters Plc to Peters Cal'dor, you can bet your sweet bippie they'll be after whatever assets Cal'dor has, to recover as much of that money as possible.
vitalspark
New member
• I have to say sorry to the hard working conscientious person that worked for BA Peters Although I never met him/her.
• After spending considerable amounts on various marques over the last two decades I have come close to dealing with Peters but I work too hard to pay for bad service (a luxury that is not afforded me in my business).
• I came close on two occasions to a deal with Brian himself however overpriced captive audience I'm not.
• I have acquaintances that have a friendship with BP and I’m sure in the early days he was as keen as the next man as they speak highly of him and his service?
• Unfortunately in the later years he had a responsibility not only to himself but to those who worked and supported him in the local community one which was taken lightly. “What goes around comes around"
• It truly amazes me the amount of educated, relatively wealthy people with no savvy at all that part with hard earned cash (tax paid sometimes) that take no insolvency insurance out on such a large investment.
• I for one think the Industry as a whole is in for the big shake as it had in the early 90s where marinas turned a blind eye to davits and overhangs, gave large annual discounts for all sorts of services from lift outs to storage etc
• I afraid to say that I will not be sad to see BA Peters go down as they had grown to a point where WIP (work in progress) and debt management was overshadowed by the need for the vanity of turnover, allied to lack of business acumen and total disregard for the individuals that had supported the company in its early years.
• The later management although incompetent to say the least (I have had first hand dealings with them) had no sales team to speak off and had little or no product knowledge or training whatsoever.
• They were/are totally unenthusiastic with no incentive, therefore disinterested in the day to day requests for viewings sea trials and the like.
• The days of the captive Fairline market still lived on and were endemic in the organisations philosophy.
• Louis Solomon was put out of business by Brian in the last years at Port Solent due to distribution arguments i.e. Brian wanted it all, and all would be subordinate or else!!
• So when you live by the sword as a lot of business men and women do you will more than likely die by it.
• To the talented redundant you will survive and prosper to the snooty uninformed good luck (not) to the unfortunate depositors I refer to my earlier comment.
• THE CUSTOMER IS KING AND TO ANYONE WHO RUNS THERE OWN BUSINESS THAT IS THE ONLY PHILOSOPHY, WE ARE NOT MEASURED ON HOW GOOD WE ARE BUT ON HOW WELL WE MANAGE OUR MISTAKES.
• After spending considerable amounts on various marques over the last two decades I have come close to dealing with Peters but I work too hard to pay for bad service (a luxury that is not afforded me in my business).
• I came close on two occasions to a deal with Brian himself however overpriced captive audience I'm not.
• I have acquaintances that have a friendship with BP and I’m sure in the early days he was as keen as the next man as they speak highly of him and his service?
• Unfortunately in the later years he had a responsibility not only to himself but to those who worked and supported him in the local community one which was taken lightly. “What goes around comes around"
• It truly amazes me the amount of educated, relatively wealthy people with no savvy at all that part with hard earned cash (tax paid sometimes) that take no insolvency insurance out on such a large investment.
• I for one think the Industry as a whole is in for the big shake as it had in the early 90s where marinas turned a blind eye to davits and overhangs, gave large annual discounts for all sorts of services from lift outs to storage etc
• I afraid to say that I will not be sad to see BA Peters go down as they had grown to a point where WIP (work in progress) and debt management was overshadowed by the need for the vanity of turnover, allied to lack of business acumen and total disregard for the individuals that had supported the company in its early years.
• The later management although incompetent to say the least (I have had first hand dealings with them) had no sales team to speak off and had little or no product knowledge or training whatsoever.
• They were/are totally unenthusiastic with no incentive, therefore disinterested in the day to day requests for viewings sea trials and the like.
• The days of the captive Fairline market still lived on and were endemic in the organisations philosophy.
• Louis Solomon was put out of business by Brian in the last years at Port Solent due to distribution arguments i.e. Brian wanted it all, and all would be subordinate or else!!
• So when you live by the sword as a lot of business men and women do you will more than likely die by it.
• To the talented redundant you will survive and prosper to the snooty uninformed good luck (not) to the unfortunate depositors I refer to my earlier comment.
• THE CUSTOMER IS KING AND TO ANYONE WHO RUNS THERE OWN BUSINESS THAT IS THE ONLY PHILOSOPHY, WE ARE NOT MEASURED ON HOW GOOD WE ARE BUT ON HOW WELL WE MANAGE OUR MISTAKES.
PeteCooper
Well-known member
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• I have to say sorry to the hard working conscientious person that worked for BA Peters Although I never met him/her.
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That would describe any of the staff working in the Kip marina branch.
• I have to say sorry to the hard working conscientious person that worked for BA Peters Although I never met him/her.
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That would describe any of the staff working in the Kip marina branch.
Sailfree
Well-known member
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• I have to say sorry to the hard working conscientious person that worked for BA Peters Although I never met him/her.
• After spending considerable amounts on various marques over the last two decades I have come close to dealing with Peters but I work too hard to pay for bad service (a luxury that is not afforded me in my business).
• I came close on two occasions to a deal with Brian himself however overpriced captive audience I'm not.
• I have acquaintances that have a friendship with BP and I’m sure in the early days he was as keen as the next man as they speak highly of him and his service?
• Unfortunately in the later years he had a responsibility not only to himself but to those who worked and supported him in the local community one which was taken lightly. “What goes around comes around"
• It truly amazes me the amount of educated, relatively wealthy people with no savvy at all that part with hard earned cash (tax paid sometimes) that take no insolvency insurance out on such a large investment.
• I for one think the Industry as a whole is in for the big shake as it had in the early 90s where marinas turned a blind eye to davits and overhangs, gave large annual discounts for all sorts of services from lift outs to storage etc
• I afraid to say that I will not be sad to see BA Peters go down as they had grown to a point where WIP (work in progress) and debt management was overshadowed by the need for the vanity of turnover, allied to lack of business acumen and total disregard for the individuals that had supported the company in its early years.
• The later management although incompetent to say the least (I have had first hand dealings with them) had no sales team to speak off and had little or no product knowledge or training whatsoever.
• They were/are totally unenthusiastic with no incentive, therefore disinterested in the day to day requests for viewings sea trials and the like.
• The days of the captive Fairline market still lived on and were endemic in the organisations philosophy.
• Louis Solomon was put out of business by Brian in the last years at Port Solent due to distribution arguments i.e. Brian wanted it all, and all would be subordinate or else!!
• So when you live by the sword as a lot of business men and women do you will more than likely die by it.
• To the talented redundant you will survive and prosper to the snooty uninformed good luck (not) to the unfortunate depositors I refer to my earlier comment.
• THE CUSTOMER IS KING AND TO ANYONE WHO RUNS THERE OWN BUSINESS THAT IS THE ONLY PHILOSOPHY, WE ARE NOT MEASURED ON HOW GOOD WE ARE BUT ON HOW WELL WE MANAGE OUR MISTAKES.
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Never dealt with Opal Marine but recognoise your description - its called the Marine Industry!!
• I have to say sorry to the hard working conscientious person that worked for BA Peters Although I never met him/her.
• After spending considerable amounts on various marques over the last two decades I have come close to dealing with Peters but I work too hard to pay for bad service (a luxury that is not afforded me in my business).
• I came close on two occasions to a deal with Brian himself however overpriced captive audience I'm not.
• I have acquaintances that have a friendship with BP and I’m sure in the early days he was as keen as the next man as they speak highly of him and his service?
• Unfortunately in the later years he had a responsibility not only to himself but to those who worked and supported him in the local community one which was taken lightly. “What goes around comes around"
• It truly amazes me the amount of educated, relatively wealthy people with no savvy at all that part with hard earned cash (tax paid sometimes) that take no insolvency insurance out on such a large investment.
• I for one think the Industry as a whole is in for the big shake as it had in the early 90s where marinas turned a blind eye to davits and overhangs, gave large annual discounts for all sorts of services from lift outs to storage etc
• I afraid to say that I will not be sad to see BA Peters go down as they had grown to a point where WIP (work in progress) and debt management was overshadowed by the need for the vanity of turnover, allied to lack of business acumen and total disregard for the individuals that had supported the company in its early years.
• The later management although incompetent to say the least (I have had first hand dealings with them) had no sales team to speak off and had little or no product knowledge or training whatsoever.
• They were/are totally unenthusiastic with no incentive, therefore disinterested in the day to day requests for viewings sea trials and the like.
• The days of the captive Fairline market still lived on and were endemic in the organisations philosophy.
• Louis Solomon was put out of business by Brian in the last years at Port Solent due to distribution arguments i.e. Brian wanted it all, and all would be subordinate or else!!
• So when you live by the sword as a lot of business men and women do you will more than likely die by it.
• To the talented redundant you will survive and prosper to the snooty uninformed good luck (not) to the unfortunate depositors I refer to my earlier comment.
• THE CUSTOMER IS KING AND TO ANYONE WHO RUNS THERE OWN BUSINESS THAT IS THE ONLY PHILOSOPHY, WE ARE NOT MEASURED ON HOW GOOD WE ARE BUT ON HOW WELL WE MANAGE OUR MISTAKES.
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Never dealt with Opal Marine but recognoise your description - its called the Marine Industry!!