So I run a dock & a paying user comes to harm ...

superheat6k said:
[FONT=&]The thought of selling Boadicea has been one I had been brooding over for some time, mostly due to lack of use. The incident last Sunday had left a bitter taste as to why I am bothering. However, the sun came out this week, and I realised why I bother.[/FONT]

[FONT=&]So the incident was not a principle reason for selling, but is more a straw that could have broke the camel's back as it were.[/FONT]

[FONT=&]To answer a few specifics I have notified the organisation that I shall not trouble them further with this, but have suggested they do need to seriously consider the safety of their slip, and have referred them to current HSE guidelines.[/FONT]

[FONT=&]To answer the specific observation of Henryf re the metal post - you are quite correct is is very visible - er, until that is a 44' yacht takes up position between my boat on the south side and the post on the north side. Further to this I was also to the south side of my own boat when I fell in.[/FONT]

[FONT=&]So perhaps I shall now take Bruce's advice and man up, accept I messed up and made a Bruce of myself. [/FONT]

[FONT=&]I might still sell, purely for reasons of sensible economies. Not for a silly trip off a dock ledge.[/FONT]
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It takes a big man to stand down from his stance and i fully respect your decision. Wait till summer kicks in before you decide on selling your boat though, you may regret it. Again, much respect. :encouragement:
 
superheat6k said:
So perhaps I shall now take Bruce's advice and man up, accept I messed up and made a Bruce of myself.
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Very generous of you given what you've done and achieved in your life to date compared to him (what does a solution architect actually do?).
 
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Most could sell their boats because of lack of use especially with recent weather!
Not involving solicitors good move - don’t ask why!
Chalk it down to experience and forget it.
In a few weeks time it will be a laugh over a pint
 
Elecglitch said:
Very generous of you given what you've done and achieved in your life to date compared to him (what does a solution architect actually do?).
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You seem to know a lot about what I have or havent done in my life then. Are you one of these internet curtain twitchers drunk on the power of Google or something? You know that makes you look like a bit of a twit right?
 
superheat6k said:
To answer a few specifics I have notified the organisation that I shall not trouble them further with this, but have suggested they do need to seriously consider the safety of their slip, and have referred them to current HSE guidelines.
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That's very good news. I'm really pleased because that's a great outcome for everyone.
 
Good outcome op.
Now get back to what your good at which is helping fellow boaters with advice and even giving up your time to help others:encouragement:
We are all missing the sun.....it’s gotta appear soon!
 
BruceK said:
Good. Not such a muppet. Glad you've come to your senses.
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Thank goodness for the absence of patronising magnanimity. It would have spoiled a thread which has identified for me, and probably for the slip owners too, a serious lacuna in the risk management and operating procedures of drying out alongside.
 
Perhaps a small point in the big scheme of things, but I would not be carrying a mobile phone while wading in muddy water unless I had no choice, for example getting on the dinghy to get to the boat, even then I put it in a waterproof bag. Perhaps I am over cautious but have fallen over more than once on slippery surfaces
 
Suspect we have all found ourselves in this somewhat uncomfortable "been there" situation, if not, you simply have not been around long enough yet :)
Have always read superheat6k posts with interest and he has helped with technical advice behind the scenes.
Time to move on.
 
Very interesting thread thank you for posting Trevor.
Good to highlight the dangers of scrubbing posts .Brings home with boating generally you are never that far away from an accident.
I,am 98 % sure that you have made the right decision to drop any official action / escalation etc .
T,other 2 % in me says when confronting conflicts , senarios like” Oldgit “ describes - folks taking fortified battle positions ,digging ,loading guns , sharpening bayonets etc
Then what works (ed ) for me every time is this approach

You do something entirely unexpected for the greater good .It completely unbalances and defuses them - t,other side .- And after dialogue you end up understanding each other and benefiting from that greater new found understanding.

Better than going to war

So here somthing along these lines . The other 2%

Walk into the office with a smile and say

“ would you mind if I went on the ( moopig for cards - some site for cheap signs ) internet and got a nice suitable sign to place on raillings to indicate a ledge fall hazard .”
“ Perhsps we could together or you choose where to fix it “

They then feel bad after a bit of reflection, and you increase your chances ( not guaranteed btw ) of a gesture the other way .
“What sort of phone again did you loose “?

Any how - one more thing - thought about a change of Dir , —— like the Med ? :encouragement:
Plenty of Sun and you can,t fiddle about every W/E —— it’s all looooong range - free up time @ home etc .
You will like the Aircon challenge :)
 
sarabande said:
Thank goodness for the absence of patronising magnanimity. It would have spoiled a thread which has identified for me, and probably for the slip owners too, a serious lacuna in the risk management and operating procedures of drying out alongside.
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What this thread has identified for me is that if you want the least amount of risk that is possible you don’t work in a muddy wet drying dock costing £60....you go to a fully hse’d up yard,get lifted out and chocked ashore and pay how much on The Hamble?
 
Just remember it cuts both ways, its unlikely that a no win no fee outfit will take it on, he will probably have to stump up some money to take you to court.
I would notify my insurance company and leave him to do what he wants to, no point losing sleep over it.
If it goes to court you will find that most judges are sensible, and when you point out the rules of seamanship you may win anyway at which point you will claim for your time.
 
BB1 said:
Just remember it cuts both ways, its unlikely that a no win no fee outfit will take it on, he will probably have to stump up some money to take you to court.
I would notify my insurance company and leave him to do what he wants to, no point losing sleep over it.
If it goes to court you will find that most judges are sensible, and when you point out the rules of seamanship you may win anyway at which point you will claim for your time.
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It’s time people learnt to accept when they do something wrong and stop keep blaming others through the courts so they can get some money for nothing, if you ain’t got any common sense then tough, have you ever wondered why the responsible people amongst us are paying such massive great insurance premiums now ? Try being responsible for your self for a change.
 
Boat2016 said:
It’s time people learnt to accept when they do something wrong and stop keep blaming others through the courts so they can get some money for nothing, if you ain’t got any common sense then tough, have you ever wondered why the responsible people amongst us are paying such massive great insurance premiums now ? Try being responsible for your self for a change.
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And you'll be amazed at how many judges see it that way now, thank God
 
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