Skye Scotland to the UK any ideas

[Spyro]

First problem you have is that there are no canals on Skye. Second problem is that if you have to ask that question I'm not sure you should be planning the trip at all.

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[Ohdrat]

Re: Didn\'t realise Scotland no longer in UK. nm

Was there a battle??? What do the Geordies think of Holyrood seeing as the didn't think much of the Regional Assembly idea??

And what has Sir John Hall got to say about playing in the somewhat lack lustre Scottish Premiership...??

What do the magpies think and will this end the Geordie / Mackham strife?

How has Newcastle taken the fact that it is now Scotland's 3rd City or has it usurped Glasgow or even Edinburgh???

Does this mean that Berwick is no longer at war with Russia???


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[Romeo]

Re: Didn\'t realise Scotland no longer in UK. nm

Was there a battle??? What do the Geordies think of Holyrood seeing as the didn't think much of the Regional Assembly idea??

I BELIEVE THRE ARE BATTLES IN NEWCASTLE MOST FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, SO NO ONE NOTICED. PASSING IT OVER TO BECOME A JACK MCCONNEL PROTECTORATE IS PRESCOTT'S PUNISHMENT FOR THE NE VOTING AGAINST REGIONAL DEMOCRACY.

And what has Sir John Hall got to say about playing in the somewhat lack lustre Scottish Premiership...??

BUT HE GETS TO PLAY IN A LEAGUE THAT HIS TEAM MIGHT ACTUALLY STAND A CHANCE OF WINNING!

What do the magpies think and will this end the Geordie / Mackham strife?

SUNDERLAND ARE IN TOO

How has Newcastle taken the fact that it is now Scotland's 3rd City or has it usurped Glasgow or even Edinburgh???

ITS THE 5TH CITY, AFTER GLASGOW EDINBURGH DUNDEE AND SUNDERLAND

Does this mean that Berwick is no longer at war with Russia???

BERWICK WILL BECOME AN INDEPENDENT STATE WITH 9 SUPER CASINOS AND A THRIVING BUSINESS IN SMUGGLED DUTY FREE MARINE DIESEL.

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[Romeo]

Trouville,
just in case you are confused by the replies we should explain tat the United Kingdom is not anohter term for "England". The "United Kingdom contains Scotland and England, as well as Northern Ireland and Wales. the heading in your post is like asking how to sail from Brittany to France, although you do calrify it in your post (but not much). There is no fully sheltered non tidal way to get from Skye to Maldon. I am no expert on the canal system but suspect that the Humber on the East coast and Preston on the west coast are the first places to aim for if you want to travel extensively through teh canal system. There is no sheltered way to get to either of them. No idea what maximum dimesnsions are for these canals.

Hope you enjoy your winter in Skye.

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[trouville]

I dont agree with you ive crused that area before im almost alwasy single handed. Therefor i have a dread by now of once going overboard--its qite easy to do im sure, even though i use a double safty line one short one longer. I dont have detailed charts of the region now but i do have CA handbook and normal maps and internet discriptions,
But as i said its one thing planning a trip in the walmth and another to make it. Trip time WX or other things can make what looks like a good short passage unadvisable.
I had wonderd if someone hear might have been crusing the region of late and it dose seem that there are quite some "cannals" reaching down to lancashire where it "seems" cannals leading through the UK to London can be accessed but they may not be in service or not upgrade what ever.
As for the trip i can handle tides but i dont have to "want"to i used to enjoy planning to use tides to speed up my trip--when i was 16 after the age of 20 i found the med far more agreeable. In this case i just happen to have found a boat that seems to be just what i was looking for given the development in the med these last 5years. If it was my boat there i would sail her out and down via Portugal wonderful trip-but a boat i dont know in a hard region im not sure even a delivery crew would take on.
When i bought my current boat a bilge pump gave up as i was collecting it and as i had just bought her i dident have a spare there was a second one and many other alternatives--as i only wanted to clear some accumalated water and there wasent a leek i dident have far to go etc it wasent a problem but it made me think that i really dident know the boat at all and things unseen can go wrong when you have owner a boat for a while you know honestly what to expect wether the pump has accumalated hair and is due for a clean out a small thing but it takes about an hour to do and better as scheduled maintainence in a sunny mooring! not on route in the rain

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[Allegro]

Trouville, you're quite right that there is an extensive canal system in the UK which has been largely restored and is used for pleasure boating all the year round. See <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.britishwaterways.co.uk/>British Waterways</A> for more information.

However, the canal system in the UK is not really suitable for seagoing boats in the way the the French canals are. The main reason for this is that many of the key canals were built specifically for "narrowboats". While these boats were about 70feet long they were only 7feet wide and drew little more than a foot or two. These dimensions were the ones used when designing the locks and bridges, so it is impossible for larger boats than this to fit through them. You've not said specifically what boat it is you're interested in, but you did mention 38' length and 3' draft. This would seem unlikely to be narrower than 7' in beam. Additionally, the 3' draft would probably be too deep for the canals, which can be quite shallow in places.

There are exceptions to these dimensions, particularly some of the "newer" canals, built when engineering techniques had evolved to make wider locks, bridges etc more feasible, but I'm fairly sure you can't go from coast to coast across England without using narrow canals at at least some point. That said, there is a wider canal (I think) across Scotland from the Clyde to the Forth, as well as the Caledonian Canal (linking Fort William with Inverness) and the Crinal Canal (providing a shortcut from the Scottish west coast to the Clyde without going round the Mull of Kintyre. These canals are used by seagoing vessels, especially those wanting to get from the west coast to the east coast without going round the top of Scotland. However, they don't link to the English canal system, which in general peters out north of about Liverpool - due largely to geography, it just gets too hilly farther north for canals to be economical.

Hope that helps. Good luck with your delivery.

Cheers
Patrick

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[trouville]

Thanks for the link! Shes about 12 feet wide 3meters 40cms i think. I thought in principel i could reach liverpool but the canals "charts" ive seen are just tourist office ones. I did wonder about the width but i thought it ought to go just. As for the depth i imagined 3 feet at least!!! and having to winch myself off the mud from time to time but 1 foot??
I recently got an old 1952 clinker fishing boat for £20 !!which had to leave a boat yard before the winter season-im just getting her ready for the lakes and French canals but at 18feet shes almost to small!! i did wonder about trailing her to the UK to potter about the canals there--the whole family taking turns to use her---but even she has just over 12inchs draft.
Thanks for the link i shall look now

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