Six pages of Audi Advert??? You can keep it!

Ubergeekian said:
What, like the Raymarine one which appeared under Dick Durham's by-line on the website?
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No, I was thinking more of things like the example I posted ... or this one that arrived a few minutes later:-
Texas Marine Dealer Wins Trip For Two
Wayne Black of South Austin Marine in Austin, Texas is the winner of a seven day trip for two anywhere in the continental US in a recent drawing sponsored by shore power products manufacturer ******* and ******* Distributors.

Wayne Black (left) of South Austin Marine with Buster Williams (right), Sales Representative from ******* Distributors. Black was recently chosen as the winner of a trip for two in a drawing sponsored by shore power products manufacturer ******* and *******.

*******'s modern, stylish products – cordsets, cables, adapters, plugs and inlets – feature the company’s efficient, built-in SMART technology - Loadsmart™ power consumption and Powersmart™ voltage indicators and Signalsmart™ anti-interference filters. For more information and to download a copy of the 2010 ******* marine products catalog, visit www.*******.com.

******* is a division of *******, which distributes over 60,000 marine products from 13 locations across the United States and Canada and in a cooperative effort with *******'s Latin America and Caribbean division, serves over 60 additional countries worldwide.
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The particular example you quote had the advantage of being competently written and reasonably interesting, and there is no particular reason to believe that anything in it was misleading or that anything significant was omitted. Most importantly, it appeared on the website.

Many people do not appreciate that most magazines (I can't speak for YM) do not pay their writers for material that goes on their website. And why should anyone work for free?
 
timbartlett said:
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Many people do not appreciate that most magazines (I can't speak for YM) do not pay their writers for material that goes on their website. And why should anyone work for free?
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Mmm. We're working for free, aren't we?

I'm not suggesting we're professional journalists, but we provide each other with hours of information, wisdom and amusement without payment. If ybw collapsed because the mags weren't making enough out of it, we'd simply shift our allegiance to a site/forum that could make a go of it.

The issue isn't whether professionals should be paid, but whether, when they've been paid, anyone will spend good money to buy what they've written. Everyone's entitled to their own preference, but it's pretty clear that fewer people want to spend money on paper mags that (many of us think) are providing less value and content than they used to.

Possibly, if it's important that we get material produced by professional journalists, then the sooner they start to be paid for what people want to read, rather than what we don't, the happier everyone will be. Production and 'distribution' costs for a good web-based service must be so much lower than for paper.

What's hard for me to understand is why the publishers are so wedded to paper publications. Is it like the cab driver's love of his horse, or the sweep's nostalgia for sending boys up the chimney to sweep it - romantic and redolent of a rich cultural history but just not economically viable in the modern world? Or is it thought that if only they can get the recipe right, there will still be money to be made in sailing magazines?
 
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Ubergeekian said:
What, like the Raymarine one which appeared under Dick Durham's by-line on the website?
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YM 'expert' Dick Durham's creative energies are taken up with inventing his own Collision Regs that feature in his instructive articles about who has right of way. (Maybe these articles are secretly sponsored by boat repair yards or insurers?)
 
Guapa said:
Can't have been that obvious :p I bought another one. (Darglow Featherstream)
The one useful statement was that folding props are more complex and hence more likely to go wrong.



What do I expect? Have an informed opinion and express it. Don't see the point in paying for a lot of um-ing and ah-ing.
Reading between the lines? Must require a microscope - call a spade a spade.
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Are you sure you read the article?
You can't compare a folding prop to a feathering prop or a two bladder with a three. You had to take each prop in comparison with others like it. Then decide which was best for you. The flexifold, folds the featherstream, feathers. Very different in design and behaviour.

You seem to have misunderstood as a folding prop is more simple and feathering (like the one you bought) is more complicated therefore more likely to go wrong.
 
just like they always did.....

There were a million books published last year - 3/4+ of them self published. Few can make a living doing that - and I do wish those few good luck!!!

The way that you might make a living publishing books has changed.. and that does not mean that "times are getting worse....."... just different.

That's true for all traditional publishers, as well. You are going to have to have different fashions in which to make a revenue stream.

SO I would MOST CERTAINLY expect to see small signs of that turmoil here. Just stands to reason....

The Internet is NOT Broadcasting - nor is it Traditional Publishing. Revenue is different too...

If Audi wants to subsidize sailors.... great.... THink of that as the extreme high end of the change.

--jr
 
Re Tin tin
Apologies for the delay in responding. Nope as far as I know the last 'independent-of advertising' effort in the UK was Pete Greenfields A5 sized ' The Boatman' ? Which was really rather good, imo. Anyone care to add to that ? There is at least one regular poster on here who was actively a part of that, N?

Pete Greenfield was the founder editor of Classic Boat which was later incorporated into the YBW stable, and continues to sell...
 
Theshipscat said:
You can't compare a folding prop to a feathering prop or a two bladder with a three. You had to take each prop in comparison with others like it. Then decide which was best for you. The flexifold, folds the featherstream, feathers. Very different in design and behaviour.
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I agree.
Bit puzzled as to why they were put in a 'side by side' test. :confused:
Apples and oranges.
 
aquaholic said:
Sorry too much for me to take, I am no longer paying £4.30 for Yachting Monthly to look at car adverts, I could live with a 6 page ad for something marine related.
Will spend my money on another yachtie mag.
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To get back to the OPs problem.
Audi win again.
For me they could fill the mag with Audi adverts just so long as it was about them winning the Le Mans 24 hrs. :D
Have a look here:-http://www.lemanslive.com/?lang=en
 
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