DAKA
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Bit late but for next time. Concrete cleaner or barnacle remover
Siezed Outdrive Pin
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oldgit
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from all the previous owners .
pistonbroker
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Not heard of that one before, but a great tip thanks. Works ok on props too!
pistonbroker
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The dance of despair lol. Yes no doubt, I'll put it in me diary for next year!.....and just remember you will probably will be doing this dance of despair sometime again in the future.
should be dawning now what method of propulsion ought be pushing that next boat through the water ?
A shaft drive would be a nice upgrade at this juncture!
pistonbroker
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Probably need removing, cleaning and lubing each year to guarantee some success. The old style of pin really didn't help in this case but now resolved.
oldgit
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Assumed that later versions of outdrives on newer boats would not now require such forensic servicing to avoid all the well known problems.
With 4 or 5 boats lumbered with outdrives ( from a total of around 80 boats )on our moorings only one is in regular use (a pair of 270s) and the owner would dearly love to see the back of them but simply cannot afford to change to something with shafts.
All the other boats with outdrives (mainly 290s ) rarely appear to go anywhere , the only time one of them has moved is to have the outdrives rebuilt yet again.
Recently had a natter with the skipper of a nice Sealine C 35, not sure what outdrives it has, it appears nothing much has changed and his next boat will definately be shaft drive.
IPS , all the old outdrive problems with a few new ones thoughtfully added to make sure the boat always has to come out of the water.
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pistonbroker
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Most of the time, certainly from my own painful experience, is that you're investing in assurance and insurance. It'll either be very costly in monetary terms, or worse if you breakdown or lose a drive at a critical moment - normally when you're berthing or in a lock! Personally the pain and expense is one of those things that come with a boat, but its heavily compounded by these drives. A guy next to me in the yard had shafts and he's been and gone already back on the water!. Plenty of downsides, but of course there are upsides and its all a compromise.Assumed that later versions of outdrives on newer boats would not now require such forensic servicing to avoid all the well known problems.
With 4 or 5 boats lumbered with outdrives ( from a total of around 80 boats )on our moorings only one is in regular use (a pair of 270s) and the owner would dearly love to see the back of them but simply cannot afford to change to something with shafts.
All the other boats with outdrives (mainly 290s ) rarely appear to go anywhere , the only time one of them has moved is to have the outdrives rebuilt yet again.
Recently had a natter with the skipper of a nice Sealine C 35, not sure what outdrives it has, it appears nothing much has changed and his next boat will definately be shaft drive.
IPS , all the old outdrive problems with a few new ones thoughtfully added to make sure the boat always has to come out of the water.
Sadly the later drives appear to require the same or similar amounts of attention from what I can see. The outdrives on that C35 are likely a similar era of design those on mine unless he's got joystick toys!
npm108
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Had the same issue as the OP and thanks to the posts in here was able to get the pin out enough to cut the head and then drive it back through, cut in half and drive again.
Was definitely a two man job requiring a solid metal block to act as a wedge for the wide chisel. Also used ACF-50 as couldn't find plugas locally.
Heat didn't seem to make any difference.
Does anyone have the part number of the new pins with the revised design please. And what's the best to lubricate the pins with for the season before putting back in.
Was definitely a two man job requiring a solid metal block to act as a wedge for the wide chisel. Also used ACF-50 as couldn't find plugas locally.
Heat didn't seem to make any difference.
Does anyone have the part number of the new pins with the revised design please. And what's the best to lubricate the pins with for the season before putting back in.
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Momac
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Maybe you put them off using their boats with your constant scaremongering.
simonfraser
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guy next to me has a sport boat on a trailer, engine box easily removable & good access to the drive, only out drive package i'd contemplate
should we have warning regarding a VP outdrive with poor access on the site ?!
should we have warning regarding a VP outdrive with poor access on the site ?!
Bandit
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As I Hear, the problem is not removing them every year.
npm108
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I'd be interested to know if this is in the VP list of annual service items. It's never been mentioned to me and I'm not aware of the drive having to come off at the end of every season.
Now that I've hit the issue I will be changing my bolts to the new type with a hex head and taking them out each year to clean and grease myself.
Now that I've hit the issue I will be changing my bolts to the new type with a hex head and taking them out each year to clean and grease myself.
madabouttheboat
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Every other year is fine as long as the pins are well greased. The drive has to come off every other year for bellows, so in a roundabout way it is part of the VP service schedule.