Side bed versus centre bed

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We are buying a classic lady a Fairline Corsica 35. She has a master cabin with a double bed thats on the side not a middle console. We have a Anatres 9.8 at the moment which has a centre console but is still difficult to get on one side. What are people thoughts about this. Can I if needed move the bed. Love the boat
 

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Moving the bed might be doable but it won’t be an easy job and may require a professional to get a decent finish. The limiting factor is likely to be space - beds are usually installed angled on one side because there isn’t room for a centrally located island berth.

Island berths are generally preferred but in the scheme of things probably a first world problem and not a major downside if you love the boat 😁
 

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I’m in partial agreement on this. My lovely wife wouldn’t consider anything but an island berth. Happy wife easy life. So it’s island berth or nothing 😊
I know what you mean - my wife (and me to be fair) would prefer an island berth but that isn’t a feature of the Hardy. Thankfully she is a pragmatist and can accept a compromise 😁
 

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An long suffering skipper would like to comment !
NO island bed. ? Easy access from one side only, somebody will be clambering over somebody else at 03.00 hours. 🤬
Good luck with that one matey.
 

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If there was enough room to fit the bed on the centreline, Fairline would have done it. Offset berths are used to save space and keep the cabin bulkhead as close to the front of the boat as possible. You might be able to convert it to vee berths, but good luck selling the boat afterwards.
 

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I dont think it was room size issue I think it was more a design feature. There is loads of room one side and there is access at the bottom and only closed on on the side. On my Antares if the door is open you cannot get round on the right hand size unless you are tiny. So sort of used to my husband climbing up to be honest.
 

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I dont think it was room size issue I think it was more a design feature. There is loads of room one side and there is access at the bottom and only closed on on the side. On my Antares if the door is open you cannot get round on the right hand size unless you are tiny. So sort of used to my husband climbing up to be honest.
Suggest you actually do the measurements at floor level bed top level and head height. Space is deceptive. There is a lot of space one side at upper body and eye level because the bed is moved right out to the side (and suspect narrower than ideal).

Draw up a cross section of the interior of the cabin using those measurements. Take a vertical centre line. The maximum beam of the boat is 3.8m on the outside. You need 1.7m at bed top height for a decent double bed so draw 2 vertical lines 0.85m from the centreline and see how much space there is on either side at the three key horizontal levels. Suspect you will find there is insufficient room either side to get into bed
 

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Suggest you actually do the measurements at floor level bed top level and head height. Space is deceptive. There is a lot of space one side at upper body and eye level because the bed is moved right out to the side (and suspect narrower than ideal).

Draw up a cross section of the interior of the cabin using those measurements. Take a vertical centre line. The maximum beam of the boat is 3.8m on the outside. You need 1.7m at bed top height for a decent double bed so draw 2 vertical lines 0.85m from the centreline and see how much space there is on either side at the three key horizontal levels. Suspect you will find there is insufficient room either side to get into bed
HI thanks I will have a look, I dont think its going to be a problem as I am pretty chilled about it. A centre console is not a must for me I just wanted to see people thought.
 

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Island berths are generally preferred but in the scheme of things probably a first world problem and not a major downside if you love the ………
….. person you are sharing the bunk with :cool:

Suspect an island berth in the bows would be a rare exception on any sailing yacht under 40 feet - and never exist on any yacht with twin stern cabins below at least 50 feet.
People seem to manage.
 

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You'll find more makes and models with center/island bed if adding aft cabins to your search.

A full-size island bed is what everybody would want if within their preferred size (& budget).

Edit: Some boats have a mid-cabin arrangement with two singles that can be moved. Might be an option.
 
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It's possible there is a water tank or something under the berth. Making moving it difficult. I can't imagine having one person crawling over the other for a wee, or to make the tea.
 

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Our bed is offset and I get the side that is harder to get out.
However I can shuffle to the end and get out without disturbing the chief officer .
The chief would like an island bed but only from the perspective of making the bed up which will be a bit easier with access to most of both sides .
The offset bed does create more room to get dressed /changed while standing within the cabin , which is a bonus .

The chief also would like a gas oven at above worktop level and separate shower ad toilet compartments. But this would require a new to us and somewhat bigger boat which is presently not looking a likely prospect.
 

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Suggest you actually do the measurements at floor level bed top level and head height. Space is deceptive. There is a lot of space one side at upper body and eye level because the bed is moved right out to the side (and suspect narrower than ideal).

Draw up a cross section of the interior of the cabin using those measurements. Take a vertical centre line. The maximum beam of the boat is 3.8m on the outside. You need 1.7m at bed top height for a decent double bed so draw 2 vertical lines 0.85m from the centreline and see how much space there is on either side at the three key horizontal levels. Suspect you will find there is insufficient room either side to get into bed
Measuring is indeed knowing.

I'm a bit more visual and would take some cardboard down there, try out how big a bed you can make vs space around it.

I suspect the answer will be six of one half a dozen of the other, making it not worth the grief.
 

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Our Broom 33 has the bed on a diagonal so there is access to both sides. Longest is in the centre position though swmbo ends up in the centre though shorter than me! Funny that...
 

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Our bed is offset and I get the side that is harder to get out.
However I can shuffle to the end and get out without disturbing the chief officer .
The chief would like an island bed but only from the perspective of making the bed up which will be a bit easier with access to most of both sides .
The offset bed does create more room to get dressed /changed while standing within the cabin , which is a bonus .

The chief also would like a gas oven at above worktop level and separate shower ad toilet compartments. But this would require a new to us and somewhat bigger boat which is presently not looking a likely prospect.
Yes this one is offset so someone can shuffle in from bottom, hubby says he is happy to. I thought the actual changing and storage space seemed more so that will be a bonus. Dont get boat till 27th so will update.
 
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