Shore Power connection

[david100952]

I know there are a few threads from a long time go and some more recent but none seem to address my specific question. I have a Jeanneau Sun Odessey and like many boats of this ilk the shore power connector is aft (in my case in the cockpit locker but many others have a transom socket) I suspect that this resulted from the fact that many boats in the Med berth transom to shore/pontoon whereas in Britain the custom is bow in. Is there any reason I should not relocate my shore power plug-in to the anchor locker thereby avoiding 8m of flex draped up the side deck?

 

[pvb]

I know there are a few threads from a long time go and some more recent but none seem to address my specific question. I have a Jeanneau Sun Odessey and like many boats of this ilk the shore power connector is aft (in my case in the cockpit locker but many others have a transom socket) I suspect that this resulted from the fact that many boats in the Med berth transom to shore/pontoon whereas in Britain the custom is bow in. Is there any reason I should not relocate my shore power plug-in to the anchor locker thereby avoiding 8m of flex draped up the side deck?

No reason why you shouldn't relocate it, or indeed install a second unit.

 

[Clancy Moped]

Moor stern to.

 

[VicS]

No reason why you shouldn't relocate it, or indeed install a second unit.

Not sure what you meant there.

You should not ... must not ... have two inlet connectors in parallel on the same system because one will have live pins when power is conncted to the other

 

[Refueler]

I have similar ... bow to ... connection in the cockpit.

I would not change it for one very good reason .....

When I used to moor STERN to my old pontoon .... the lack of cable on deck meant I forgot to unplug when departing one day ... VERY VERY embarrassing !!

Now with bow to - I know the cable is there because I literally tread on it a couple of times ... as it comes into cockpit - it is looped round the Morse lever ....
I have never forgotten it again !!
If I had connection up fwd (I don't have anchor locker) so its not a viable option for me ... but if I did - I can g'tee I will forget I'm connected and have another 'incident' !

 

[[70521]]

You can move it anywhere you want, just takes a bit of time. Or do as @Clancy Moped suggests and moor stern to.

 

[pvb]

Not sure what you meant there.

You should not ... must not ... have two inlet connectors in parallel on the same system because one will have live pins when power is conncted to the other

Depends entirely on how it's wired. I'd have a simple change-over switch, which would remove any danger.

 

[Catalina36]

Anchor lockers tend to be damp and salty. Not a good mix with mains AC I'd have said.

 

[zoidberg]

How to check for 'lecky safety.....?

I have one of these expensive Marinco connectors sited into the cockpit wall, and the cable leads forward via an indeterminate plastic box, then to a domestic twin 13A power outlet fitted into a bulkhead. I haven't used the setup as I'm suspicious of the 'electrical safety' of this - and WILL replace the cabling.

What else does the knowledgeable team recommend?

 

[pvb]

Anchor lockers tend to be damp and salty. Not a good mix with mains AC I'd have said.

My shorepower inlet is in the open, in the cockpit, surrounded by damp salty air. It isn't a problem.

 

[Refueler]

My shorepower inlet is in the open, in the cockpit, surrounded by damp salty air. It isn't a problem.

As is mine .... socket points down ...

Plenty of Mobo's with sockets on the sides with fancy chrome covers !!

 

[Clancy Moped]

We had an SO37 with the same setup, on the very rare occasion we moored bows to I would run the power line along the guard rail with intermittent bungy cords to keep it off the deck.

 

[Refueler]

We had an SO37 with the same setup, on the very rare occasion we moored bows to I would run the power line along the guard rail with intermittent bungy cords to keep it off the deck.

I thought about clipping mine up out of the way - but after my 'incident' that actually pulled the last section of pontoon away from shore ... I thought better of it !!

 

[colind3782]

We have ours clipped to the guardrail with small carabiners. It's been that way for 9 years with no issues.

 

[PaulRainbow]

How to check for 'lecky safety.....?

I have one of these expensive Marinco connectors sited into the cockpit wall, and the cable leads forward via an indeterminate plastic box, then to a domestic twin 13A power outlet fitted into a bulkhead. I haven't used the setup as I'm suspicious of the 'electrical safety' of this - and WILL replace the cabling.

What else does the knowledgeable team recommend?

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but those Marinco sockets are rubbish. I've had to change several of them, with burnt/melted sockets and/or plugs. I'm not the only one:

Marinco Shore Power Socket/Plug burnt out

melted shore power socket - Google Search

 

[Poey50]

How to check for 'lecky safety.....?

I have one of these expensive Marinco connectors sited into the cockpit wall, and the cable leads forward via an indeterminate plastic box, then to a domestic twin 13A power outlet fitted into a bulkhead. I haven't used the setup as I'm suspicious of the 'electrical safety' of this - and WILL replace the cabling.

What else does the knowledgeable team recommend?

That looks like one of the US-style twist and lock connectors. If so, there are quite a few pictures of burnt out connectors online and this Rod Collins article is sobering. Shore Power - SmartPlug vs. 1938 - Marine How To

When this was discussed before I followed a recommendation to fit this reasonably priced alternative:
Ratio Glass filled Nylon 6 Polymer shore power inlet. 2P+E. 240v 16 A | Energy Solutions

 

[PaulRainbow]

That looks like one of the US-style twist and lock connectors. If so, there are quite a few pictures of burnt out connectors online and this Rod Collins article is sobering. Shore Power - SmartPlug vs. 1938 - Marine How To

When this was discussed before I followed a recommendation to fit this reasonably priced alternative:
Ratio Glass filled Nylon 6 Polymer shore power inlet. 2P+E. 240v 16 A | Energy Solutions

Also available in polished stainless: Ratio Stainless steel shore power inlet. 2P+E. 240v 16 A | Energy Solutions

Much better than the twist and lock ones and they are waterproof too.

Apart from the name on the cover, i reckon this one is the same: Victron Energy Shore Power Inlet 16A - Stainless Steel c/w cover (SHP301602000)

 

[Poey50]

Apart from the name on the cover, i reckon this one is the same: Victron Energy Shore Power Inlet 16A - Stainless Steel c/w cover (SHP301602000)

Yes, it looks identical. Much better than this sad collection of burnt-out twist and locks ....

 

[Refueler]

Dunno about others but I have a small locker with all sorts of adaptor leads ......

My main power lead is the Blue caravan / leisure type. Pretty bog standard around UK.

Then I have adaptor to EU style ...
adaptor to domestic UK plug (a number of berths I found in UK had domestic sockets under a bucket !) ...
adaptor to 3 phase Red large plug - using only one phase ....

Having been caught out - I do not intend it again !!

 

[dgadee]

Anchor lockers tend to be damp and salty. Not a good mix with mains AC I'd have said.

Mine was there until I moved it. Not infrequently the bow would take large amounts of water. Silly location.

Ps: I use ratio system. Very good apart from cost of plugs.