Self-su'fish'iencey- without the fish

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this Lattume thing is tuna semen, also called figatello depending on the region, a delicatessen which is often kept by sicily fishermen for themselves.

I tried it once, now if they only had not told me what it was afterward... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif


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..a subject close to my own heart! We grow salad leaves, the cut and come again varieties, herbs including basil, and sprout beans at sea. The forward heads is turned into a greenhouse whrn on passage and although the quality degenerates after a week or so it is possible to keep stuff growing. Quite a lot of work though.

Just harvested my tomato crop, 20 odd pounds of delicious beefsteak tomatoes, grown on board but whilst at the dock! Not sure they were a great leap towards self sufficiency but certainly a wonderful treat in a part of the world where they are impossible to buy.

There is an old book out there somewhere called 'farming the boat' he seems to do a lot with seaweed though....

As for living like Annie Hill, I thought that too when I first read her book but after the pleasure of meeting and spending time eating on her boat I am a convert, tasty and veggie!

We dried tomatoes and other fruits when in less humid climates than our current ones, scavenged/bartered for fruit and veg in remote anchorages. Found a hundred ways to use coconut and plantain.

Not sure if that really answers your question. Yes it certainly is possible to be self sufficient on long journeys, but just how long a sea vyage are you planning??

www.gerryantics.blogspot.com
 
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Sounds wonderful! Thanks for the advice.

I have no idea where I'll be going yet, or for how long. Depends on which way the wind is blowing. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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But seeing as how you are such a quiet and shy girl you are not going to tell us before the watershed!
 
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Can't say I'm gagging to try it myself...


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the Cuban Shrimp recipé on your site is now high on my list to try when I get back to the boat. SWMBO just filled the freezer with a load of gulf shrimp last week.
 
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Don't worry about it! If people put up their Bio and Blog they expect others to read. They may even be exhibitionists.

Others like me only reveal something about themselves where they think it relevant to the post.
 
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Tranona:
Thank you for your commitment to purity and relevance.
Without posters like you, the Exhibitionists would run amok.
 
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Tranona
You should be knighted for remaining so relevant; especially given that you comment, on average, 29.2 times per week.
This tells me a lot about you.
 
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Actually self preservation. If nobody knows who I am I can never be blamed!
 
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You've been checking up on me! Last week has been particularly heavy as I am working in China and this provides a little diversion for me. And there have been particular threads that have got to me. Supposed to be a retired gentleman of leisure who should let all this waft past, but thanks to GBs successful destruction of our pension funds, savings and value of our currency, have to keep in touch with the world. Still, will be home in time to see my grandchildren at Xmas.
 
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You complimented him on his relevancy with a digression?
 
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Serious reply:
We planned food for 6 weeks for a Pond crossing (3 people), though only took 22 days in the end.
Find a greengrocer where the produce is NOT chilled before sale - it lasts a heck of a lot longer! We got 3-stage tomatoes (red, greenish and green to ripen in the window on the way), cabbages, potatos, carrots, squash, swede, parsnips and onions last a long, long time if aired (we stored them in the dinghy carried on the boat with a cover loosely over, laid on paper (not plastic!)).
Dried lentils, beans and split peas were good but they do use a fair bit of your water, along with various herbs and spices to make 'em a bit more tasty.
We carried bread flour and pasta (stored in the sack/packet in a dry place, but also can be stored in 2-litre soda bottles) and made bread both in the oven and in the pressure cooker.
Eggs last a goodly time if stacked in trays in a container that you can turn over every day.
Small cans of tomato paste or puree add flavour and bulk to many dishes.
We were still eating good veggies after 8 weeks, after arrival, but most things are available most places, just shop locally.
Tip: as an exercise draw up menus for each day planned (you can switch them about after leaving), for breakfast lunch and dinner and then you can work out what quantities you need.
There's probably more that we did, but it was 5 years ago!
Happy sailing, fair winds and safe arrivals!
 
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To resist digression!

Hav a look at Sailing the Farm by ken Neumeyer - out of print but available on Amazon - full of amazing stuff about what you can gather to eat at sea, incluidng lots of different kinds of seaweed. Can't say we've tried it (tho we have the book) but really appropriate. Related book is now quite old Solar Boat Book by Pat Rand Rose. Of course the technology has moved on tons but he talks about making a solar dryer and so on - ie v low tech ways of drying and keeping both fish adn vegetables.

Incidentally - for long term keeping of all those dried things, it;s really important to have good food containers. After various experiments we have found lock'n'lock the bst; they're not the cheapest but they really last and they're really water and airproof which many others aren't. (No connection except a customer.)

Finally - we've done a little bottling (what the american's call canning) of vegg and fruit and that helps a lot too. Never risked it with meat, though I know Beth leonard has done it very successfully.
 
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That's the book! Sorry got the title wrong. He seems a bit of a nutter, but some good hints and tips in there.

Mind you there is a balance between going over the top on the self sufficiency thing. I remember watching a video of a single handed french man who took whole grain along on his voyage along with a hand operated grinder. After a few days of bad weather he was cussing about the massive amount of work involved in preparing a loaf of bread.

Personally I think we need a sort of ocean going mix of Delia(frugal cook) and Hugh(cook on the wild side)! Any suggestions of forum members who might meet the requirements!

www.gerryantics.blogspot.com
 
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Annie Hill's book is a legend (Classic).
Bejesus says "If I had to live to the meager standards she promotes I would bother"
do they mean "I would not bother"?
Annie's book is really about cruising on a small buget not really about veggie diets, but it is one of my favorite books, she talks about junk rigs and other stuff, quite educational. I would recommend it:)
 
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