Seems that Henri Lloyd have gone pop

viago said:
what's wrong with some oilskins and a thick patterned jumper?
"oow it doesn't breath", neither will you if you go in the cold water with a breathable for any length of time which you will do with your posh jacket if i'm at the helm.
the order will be "press on" cockleshell hero style.
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I sometimes wonder if those who criticise the top end kit have actually tried it.
I find my Musto gear excellent and choose it because it fits me well and does what i want it to do.
yes 900 euros for jacket and trousers is a ridiculous price and by the time i add all the baselayers it is eyewateringly expensive. But i am comfortable and warm and dry. I have done the cheepo gear over the last 50 years and see no point in going back
 
Agree with D B; I started sailing in the early seventies wearing yellow or orange pvc coated cotton and yellow Javelin wellies, we knew no better, Henri Lloyd were pioneering more comfortable kit and Musto joined them later. There was a time when Henri Lloyd were well worth buying, but most of you are too young to have experienced it. I still sometimes wear a Henri Lloyd suit that I bought thirty years ago, though no longer for sailing, state of the art at the time, quite expensive, but one of my mates could get HL wholesale, I still keep it in the car and use it on dreich days when helping boats through the canal, other than a bit of fraying at the cuff of the salopettes where my walking boots rub and a complete loss of elasticity in the braces, it is still good. My only problem with the current offerings from Musto etc. are the over elaboration in the design particularly the 'offshore' ranges, with your head clamped in a collar like a brace rendering them almost claustrophobic. My favourite jacket at the moment came from Decathlon.
I can still remember getting out of those primitive pvc oilies and in to my sleeping bag, teeth chattering, still wearing all my wooly layers, in the early hours and still being chilled to the bone at the next watch call.
 
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I was in the HL shop in Cowes yesterday. Asked about the situation.

From the horse’s mouth it is “not the retail arm or the production, but the corporate ownership”.

Shop staff are expecting the business to continue as before. “Once this is sorted out”.
 
From the London Gazette today

Appointment of AdministratorsIn the High Court of Justice
Manchester Business and Property Court Court Number: CR-2018-2540


HENRI-LLOYD LIMITED

(Company Number 00773829)
Nature of Business: Retail sale of clothing

seems to be a bit of a catch-all description.
 
Daydream believer said:
I sometimes wonder if those who criticise the top end kit have actually tried it.
I find my Musto gear excellent and choose it because it fits me well and does what i want it to do.
yes 900 euros for jacket and trousers is a ridiculous price and by the time i add all the baselayers it is eyewateringly expensive. But i am comfortable and warm and dry. I have done the cheepo gear over the last 50 years and see no point in going back
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I agree. One of the things you get with high spec Musto kit is a very good warranty. In 2007 I bought a new MPX Offshore jacket and trousers. End of 2011, both started to delaminate, and were replaced. This spring I found the same happening to my 2012 trousers. I’m enjoying wearing my third pair having only bought one set 11 years ago.
 
Quandary said:
Agree with D B; I started sailing in the early seventies wearing yellow or orange pvc coated cotton and yellow Javelin wellies, we knew no better, Henri Lloyd were pioneering more comfortable kit and Musto joined them later. There was a time when Henri Lloyd were well worth buying, but most of you are too young to have experienced it...

...I can still remember getting out of those primitive pvc oilies and in to my sleeping bag, teeth chattering, still wearing all my wooly layers, in the early hours and still being chilled to the bone at the next watch call.
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Me too. I remember all that. I recall when Henri-Lloyd were considered much better than Musto; this started to change with the early Whitbread races. I do recall being asked by Japanese sailing friends to bring them H-Ls in the mid-late Seventies.

I’ve got an H-L drysuit which is better than the Musto one imho. I’ll have to look after it.
 
viago said:
there wont be, it's a notice to give them a couple of weeks to negotiate a solution to the problem.

from my perspective hl represent overpriced status symbols. i fail to see how any "offshore" sailing jacket is worth £700 or more.

aren't all boats offshore? that's what they do. it can cut up a bit outside the breakwater, you dont have to be a hundred miles off the scillies.

i think these status symbol suppliers rely solely on the solent suckers trying to out do each other. a very limited market but not limited enough imho.

what's wrong with some oilskins and a thick patterned jumper?
"oow it doesn't breath", neither will you if you go in the cold water with a breathable for any length of time which you will do with your posh jacket if i'm at the helm.
the order will be "press on" cockleshell hero style.


this is more like it.
https://www.gaelforcemarine.co.uk/en/Fladen-Scandia-2-Piece-Flotation-Suit-C1/m-4916.aspx

i might even turn round for you.
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We have the fladens in your link at work (one piece though) Can't stand them, no breathability and they're heavy so you sweat and dehydrate which can be a safety issue. Also H/H commercial which are not very good either. Again not breathable and production seems to have been outsourced to the cheapest possible provider as zips and seams are always going.

If sailing offshore in a leisure capacity I prefer the good stuff. Generally the more you pay the less shee ite it is.
 
Apologies if this was followed up in a separate (subsequent) thread, but I couldn't find anything.

Following on from Flaming's post #26, I was in the Lymington store on Saturday and was reassured that Henri Lloyd is alive and well. (The shop assistant was particularly pleased as that meant she still had a job). :)

It looks like the entry into administration may have been "prepacked". A quote from here dated 12 June:

It was with great regret that Henri Lloyd was put into administration last Friday. The company had experienced difficulties and sought additional financial backing for some time. A Swedish investor, the Aligro Group, recently came on board as lenders but could unfortunately not remedy the difficult financial situation.

Aligro, that already own the rights to the brand and trademarks, has now also closed a transaction with Henri Lloyd’s administrator to obtain five stores, certain stock and other assets as a stepping stone to reviving the classic British fashion label.
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I was speaking with an old friend who worked for them
They've gone pop, the intellectual property rights have been sold off and the pension fund has been cleaned out
 
claymore said:
I was speaking with an old friend who worked for them
They've gone pop, the intellectual property rights have been sold off and the pension fund has been cleaned out
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Depends what you mean by "gone pop". Certainly the old company will no longer be trading (and therefore the pension fund no longer has a "sponsoring employer"), since Aligro purchased assets from the administrator and not the company itself, but my conversation (with someone who still works for them) revealed her confidence that the brand and the shops (including an ongoing supply of stuff to sell) are alive and well.
 
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claymore said:
I was speaking with an old friend who worked for them
They've gone pop, the intellectual property rights have been sold off and the pension fund has been cleaned out
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What IP rights?

I did a search of their IP some years ago and could only find one T-shirt that they had IP rights to.

Seemed they did not bother with protecting IP much as far as I could ascertain.
 
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