Seamanship-lacking in yachting circles???

Well said Banjan. Your first rule is mine as well. When you consider the number of boat/ships/ferries/fishermen etc. there are in the Solent on a nice Sunday it is remarkable how few serious incidents there are. We can't all be bad.
 
"I have been shocked by the actions of "professional sailors", Royal Navy, Merchant Navy or "part time", in that order."
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HMS Nottigham in Oz, Titanic (anniversary in a few weeks), et al - run by 'professionals' /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Noah's Arc - run by an amateur. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Thought a 'professional' was just someone who gets paid for making mistakes! As we all know, if you've never made a mistake, you've never done anything.
 
"Does the stand on vessel have "right of way?"

I think you'll find the answer is "NO" "

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Great in theory, but I think you'll find the answer is'YES' when a plastic fantastic is in conflict with a large steel hull!
 
"What's IRPCS?"


International Regulations for Prevention of Collisions at Sea. Know also as Col Regs. I think there may have been a couple of posts in the past on this subject!
 
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"What's IRPCS?"


International Regulations for Prevention of Collisions at Sea. Know also as Col Regs. I think there may have been a couple of posts in the past on this subject!

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/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif is this the irony smiley he should have used?
 
My own version of the ColRegs starts with 'have a big enough engine, in good enough nick, in whatever boat you're in to get out of the way of idiots - no matter the paint scheme of the idiot.....' an I'm stll here.
 
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/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif is this the irony smiley he should have used?

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/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif More like it.

Oh how I do love messages from the pulpit!

Donald
 
Did the girl come with the yacht.

Is this a regular feature of classic yacht sales, or even standard equipment.

Which broker do you use.
 
Surely that is unfair to dogs. No wonder the Dogs Trust is overrun with strays.

What is this guy Jack on? Hope he stays in Lancashire!!

As an ex RN Navigating Officer I do know the differences (and similarities) between navigating an Aircraft Carrier and a 27' sloop. I think he has quite a learning curve ahead.
 
Merchant_Jack, if I've read you right, it seems your opinions are all based on conversations you've had with other boat owners in the yard, not from your many years at sea.

How many people have you spoken to, and what were you talking about that led you to such a conclusion about all yachties? I've never worked out, or really cared, how much or little anyone else knows. When I chat to people in the yard it's normally small talk or about favourite local anchorages etc.

I can imagine such a conversation with you:
"Good day for painting..."
"Don't be a fool, man- look at this synoptic chart."

Or
"Is my car in the way here?"
"Gar, don't be anchoring in the fairway."

"Where be yr lifejacket, laddy, there's a storm brewing?"
"But my boat's on the hard..."

Or (queuing for the loo)
"Out of my way, ignorant little man, can't you see I'm constrained by my draft."
 
For a period I was an RYA examiner. During the 1980's a lot of experienced yachtsmen presented themselves for direct examination for the yachtmaster qualification. I suppose I must have examined some 30 such people.

Almost without exception, their boat handling was superb. However, about half were a little thin on safety issues, and about two thirds were very thin on colregs and bouyage, relying on the 'keep clear of commercial stuff and watch the chart, then it's not an issue' principle. All were well aquainted with how to get (and the importance of getting) Met forecasts, but only about half understood the principles driving the weather. A pragmatic approach with gaps . . .

I accepted the view about Met - you don't need to be a meteorologist to avoid bad weather, but it helps. I did not accept the blanks in knowledge about colregs; there are too many situations in which you can't keep clear of commercial vessels, and you need to be able to predict their probable reactions to your presence. Buoyage? some spring up to mark recent hazards, and aren't on your chart, so you need to know their meaning. Safety? It's your fundamental responsibility to your crew.

Now, that was the 80's. Jack's point is that it is still the case nowadays. I'm sure that if there is a difference, it will only be a matter of degree. 30% then, 5% now? Whatever, his point is good. And nicely expressed.
 
Judging by the reports in the MAIB Safety Digest which arrived this morning, we all have our problems.....merchant ships, tugs, fishing boats, yachts, RIBs, all doing very silly things.
 
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I can imagine such a conversation with you:
"Good day for painting..."
"Don't be a fool, man- look at this synoptic chart."

Or
"Is my car in the way here?"
"Gar, don't be anchoring in the fairway."

"Where be yr lifejacket, laddy, there's a storm brewing?"
"But my boat's on the hard..."

Or (queuing for the loo)
"Out of my way, ignorant little man, can't you see I'm constrained by my draft."

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have just almost wet myself laughing

I wish I could have conversations like that with people...every day would be a riot!!! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Have you ever thought that in carrying out your "no.1 rule of the road" if its not in accordance with IRPCS, then you are seen as an ignorant idiot by professioanls on one of those big steel ships 'cause they haven't a clue what you are likely to do next?
 
Too late He already has /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Hook,Line and sinker

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cheers Joe
 
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"What's IRPCS?"


International Regulations for Prevention of Collisions at Sea.

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To be very pedantic, it's the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea.
 
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