Sealine S28 - List to Starboard (with photo)

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Our 2005 S28 has a list to starboard, as can be seen in the photo. the additional weight of items onboard is distributed evenly across the boat, and to be honest, wouldn't account for the amount of listing that is evident

Is there a method for balancing a vessel up, and by that I mean, how would the boat manufactuer rectify this?

Many thanks in advance.

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how would the boat manufactuer rectify this?

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Don't some of them fit flat ballast plates inside the hull either side of the engines as required? I'm sure I've seen this a couple of times.

Cheers
Jimmy
 
Hi, sounds a bit daft but which side is your water tank on, is it full? maybe your waste tank full? happened to me, filled waste tank up with fresh water, took me ages/weeks to realise, boat listed simmelar to yours... good luck!
 
i think they all do this but can depend upon options fitted
eg a cooker was an option, heating etc, these go on the stb side.
having said that mine has these options and i would say yours looks way more pronounced than mine
have got full set of batteries.. on port side
cockpit fridge on port side is another option that would help correct
i put my liferaft and tool kit and spare drinking water on port side and this helped
btw, like the teak side decks etc
 
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how would the boat manufactuer rectify this?

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Don't some of them fit flat ballast plates inside the hull either side of the engines as required? I'm sure I've seen this a couple of times.

Cheers
Jimmy

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Thanks for the quick reply Jimmy. I feel that the boat is beyond the point in age, whereby Sealine would be interested in doing anything about it.

Can anyone please suggest anyone in the Solent area that might be able to help with this problem?

Thx again.
 
It has everything bar the above deck fridge. Three batteries are situated on the port side.

TBH, the list looks worse in the photo than it actually is, but is nevertheless there. Hopefully, I want to get around to sorting it out, as the boat doesn't sit correctly in the water.

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On bigger boats they add ballast to level them, as there are always variations in build and specification. The weight is fibreglassed to the inside of the hull in a suitable location.

It's less likely to be in the build of an S28, do you have more or bigger batteries or an oversize calorifier? It doesn't take a lot of weight on one side to induce a fairly significant list.

On planing boats i'd always prefer to move weight around than add ballast if possible, but you're probably only talking 100 kgs max to correct that list, so it wouldn't affect performance that much.

I assume you've checked that the hull isn't holding water anywhere?
 
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Hi, sounds a bit daft but which side is your water tank on, is it full? maybe your waste tank full? happened to me, filled waste tank up with fresh water, took me ages/weeks to realise, boat listed simmelar to yours... good luck!

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No waste tank fitted, and the water tank runs across the beam of the boat, as does the fuel tank - both of which are full.

I must be honest, I did consider this, but ruled it out, when observing the tanks at different states of level.

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I think they all have a slight list to starboard at rest - caused by the weight of the galley units, extra woodwork, and helm on that side. Having said that, it's quite subtle on mine, and not as obvious. Bear in mind that the hull on an S28 is actually a reasonably deep V, so any minor imbalance shows up much more at rest than a similar boat with a flatter bottom (e.g. Bayliner).

Waste/Water/fuel tanks are all amidships, so nothing doing there.

Personally, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it unless it's causing a problem. Just load up the heavy stuff portside first. Or use heavier batteries?

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Thanks for the quick reply Jimmy. I feel that the boat is beyond the point in age, whereby Sealine would be interested in doing anything about it.

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Would still start with Sealine, or at least your dealer, they will at least tell you what to do.

Brian
 
Whilst running a tv cable on my bavaria i found a 20 kg bag of lead shot on port side /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif . I suppose sealine must balance boat from new as well , but as soon as you start filling holding tank or stow outboard etc or just sit one side or the other ideal trim is gone . Maybe you could move batterys over and just try and stow all heavy kit on port side if poss .
 
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Maybe you could move batterys over and just try and stow all heavy kit on port side if poss .

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If I move the batteries over to the port any more then they'd be outside of the boat! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
400 tins of Fray Bentos distributed down the port side should do it.

Some in the forward lockers, some in the bathroom, the mid cabin storage, and the remainder underneath the cockpit sink...

dv.
 
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Ok then what about helium balloons on starboard side /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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400 tins of Fray Bentos distributed down the port side should do it.

Some in the forward lockers, some in the bathroom, the mid cabin storage, and the remainder underneath the cockpit sink...

dv.

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With ingenuity like this, it's hard to understand how this country has lost it's way .... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Yup, as others have said, builders often use balast to level up.,

Remeber, if you have a small imbalance in the build causing say 1deg of list, an if you have a wide fuel tank or a tank each side connected by a pipe to operate as de facto one tank, the fuel slooshes across due to the 1 deg list and makes it 3 degrees, and so on. Ditto water tanks, if you have one each side or one tank across the beam of the boat.

If you get this loose fluids effect you'll need less ballast than you think to level her up.

The boat's in lovely condition - looks brand new
 
Hi
Nice clean boat you have there.
My S28 has a slight list to starboard, just like all the others I have seen. I just adjusted the waterline to suit. However as already mentioned depending on the options can help or not on the amount of list, eg oven,heating both on the stbd side, but don't forget all the stowage areas also on that side - under both of the rear seats at the cockpit table, you can have a lot of kit/junk in there without considering the weight of it all even though you may think it is all evenly spread as you mention. In the cabin you have the stowage areas also on the same side, so you can see it can soon all add up.
If you decide that you are not causing the problem with your items being stowed then I would probably put some ballast in either of the 2 areas under the aft cabin flooring on the port side, maybe not the one with the log sender in though. After all of that I would probably live with it unless it is seriously bugging you that is.
Hope this of of some sort of help.
 
Many thanks for the comments on the boats condition. I have just put her back in the water having done the usual chores like antifouling, leg services, anodes etc. I recently bought myself a Meguairs dual action mop, and spent the rest of the week polishing and waxing her. It was a ball-ache, but the results were worth-while. It seems to have lasted, as she's been back in for 6 weeks now, and you can still see your face in the GRP.

When you trundle down the Hamble, it's sad to see some of the once lovely boats that are idle and neglected, through lack of effort or interest. We have used ours a lot, but try and keep it up together.

Thanks again for everyone's replies & suggestions. Much appreciated. I may get on to Sealine in the morning & see what they suggest. Will keep you posted.
 
Don't know if its helps but I had the same problem on my MF805. I couldn’t work out why I had a pronounced port list and then it dawned on me that the standard fit aboard was one single battery. The previous owner had put three whopping big batts on board all on the port side and also backed this up with a Honda 240v generator again on the port side.
I checked on a website and found out that each battery weighed 45Kgs .This extra weight plus a full fuel tank also on the port side made for a huge imbalance.
My solution was simple and effective - took out one of the batteries and relocated the generator on to the starboard d side.
If you still have a list that irritates you then I suggest you get hold of a duff heavy battery and use it to balance out your boat – I know it not very fuel efficient but it’s as solution.
 
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