Sealine F37, maybe

Read this thread with interest.
Pontoon I’m on currently has all flavours of Sealine,S34,37,38 plus a F37.
Side decks are a tad narrow for someone of 69 with health issues maybe?
 
Flynnbarr said:
Read this thread with interest.
Pontoon I’m on currently has all flavours of Sealine,S34,37,38 plus a F37.
Side decks are a tad narrow for someone of 69 with health issues maybe?
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I guess they are all narrower than our current Broom. Although our boat just prior to this one was a Skilso 975 (similar to a Nimbus 310). Deck width wasn't too much of an issue as I recall.

It's just too many levels on the Broom, including my home made ladder down to the engines. I've always done my own maintenance up to now, but may have to let this go and start paying people.

Trying to think of the right boat which is:

Not much bigger than the Broom (11 metres), so we can park her.
A bit bigger than the Skilso (9.75 metres), so we don't feel claustrophobic after a week.
If it had a single engine then I could still fix it as there would be more room. But not a single outdrive.
Shaft drive as I prefer them to outdrives, but will compromise on this.
Doesn't need to be super fast but capable of 15 knots minimum.
Somewhere for the co-pilot to sit, not with the galley in the way.
Don't mind either way about a fly bridge.
2005 ish or later so there might be less to break down.
Not too much like an angling boat. i.e. Starfisher or Rodman.

Budget? say £120K max if we have to spend it for the right one, but would like to get something for less.

Any ideas?
 
Flynnbarr said:
Read this thread with interest.
Pontoon I’m on currently has all flavours of Sealine,S34,37,38 plus a F37.
Side decks are a tad narrow for someone of 69 with health issues maybe?
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Flynnbarr said:
Read this thread with interest.
Pontoon I’m on currently has all flavours of Sealine,S34,37,38 plus a F37.
Side decks are a tad narrow for someone of 69 with health issues maybe?
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You are quite correct to point out access to side decks is a consideration and wide side decks a bonus. A Broom would provide this when under way but the OP already has a Broom and is finding climbing aboard an issue .

I think all boats require a certain agility .

Of the boats mentioned
A S34 has steps up to the cockpit and requires agility to access the side decks - not good I think
A F34 has level access to the cockpit and reasonable step up to the side decks - good
A F33 has a step in at the transom gate which I would say is not good
A F36 has almost level access but okay . Also the steps up to the flybridge are shallower than on my F33 and therefore overall easier access.
A F37 as F36 but bigger bathing platform - probably the slightly better for access overall

So I think a F34 a F36 (or 360 statesman) or a F37 wins it for access at the stern off the pontoon.
 
Elessar said:
Good point. Even the f43 has narrow side decks.

SC35 better I think in that regard. Never taken one of those to sea though.
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SC35 has reasonable sized side decks with easy access.
Good at flattening waves (7900kg), stable, but not a rocketship - top speed 30kts on a good day with D4-260s.
 
Falling Star said:
2005 ish or later so there might be less to break down.
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I mentioned earlier the easy maintenance non electronic KAD43 which is possibly one of the most reliable VP engines. I think this was superseded by the KAD44 and KAD 300 in about 2002. So for this alone I would reset your clock to 2001/2002
There was something on here a couple of years ago that KAD44 cylinder heads were no longer available. I hope I’m wrong but that would give me some cause for concern.
 
We have been staying on a friends F37 and had a look at the F43 as well they are about the same price BUT the galley on the F37 is bigger as is the forward head - I dont like the aft cabin door on the F37 its tiny to get through and a bit wider on the F43 which also has a lovely twin cabin but you lose the galley space and it has a side front bed.. . I think the engines are a bit better on the F43 and the Bathing platform is easier to board.. Not for us as the head room is really restricted and our friend who is nearly 6 foot cant go into aft cabin and hits the ceiling on way in on F37!! - I would view both but after the broom you may find they cabin height restrictive
 
Yep, OK accept that, but nowhere near as vertical as the brooms ladder at the stern which is what the OP mentioned. Access on and off is also easier.
 
Just came across this thead .I was in a very similar positon last year with almost the same critera .
I have mobility issues and our last boat was a sealine s28 .We went for the sports cruiser style of boat for ease of access for me.
We took a break from boats for about 9 years and started looking at buying again 2 years ago.
This time round we still wanted easy access ,idealy low air draft and minimal steps / ladders , living accommodation on one level and large enough to spend a few weeks at a time on but no larger than 12 metres .There was also some other things that i was looking for - a bed we could both get in and out of easily without any gymnastics , a seperate shower with a seat for me , a helm that was easy to use with good visibility and easy engine access.
We looked at and seriously considered an F37 but i felt the steps up to the fly where very steep and short in depth and the view from the interior helm restricted and not great engine access .
After ruling out aft cabin style boats for years we came across a Broom 35 cl , it has all the space inside that we need ,good view out , the right length and it also as moulded steps at the stern instead of a ladder making it relatively easy for me to get on . It wasn't perfect but we felt with some work it could be made suitable for me .
We are currently getting the stern platform extended , it will total 48" when finished with stern guard rails ,making it a lot safer for boarding .We have redesigned the saloon floor for better engine access - instead of having to roll up the carpet and open a load of small hatches we have Amtico on the floor and 2 large gas assisted hatches .
These changes could easily be done to your boat , before I got the 35cl in looked at a 345 and although it has a ladder if you extend the platform you could get stainless steel steps made to suit . Also if you fitted variable thrust bow and stern thrusters with a remote you could almost moor single handed .
One thing the 35 has over your own is the side door which makes getting into the saloon easy for me rather than having to use the rear saloon steps .
It might work out cheaper to do work on your boat by the time you factor in selling costs and any work you might want doing on a new to you boat and you are getting to keep a boat you know well.
It might be worth talking to Broom to see what they could do .
 
alandalus11 said:
Have you considered the Beneteau Swift Trawler 34.

https://www.theyachtmarket.com/boats_for_sale/1732193/?searchid=17528686&page=1
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That's a good suggestion, thank you. We had considered a Swift Trawler 34 and, on paper, it does tick a lot of boxes.

I'll probably get shot down for this but I wouldn't go for one because, in my opinion, the interior seating isn't adequate. The choice is at the helm or on the sofa bed. Not enough, unless you add on some loose extra seating which is something I'm not keen on.

Apart from that, lovely boat.
 
Fredd said:
Just came across this thead .I was in a very similar positon last year with almost the same critera .
I have mobility issues and our last boat was a sealine s28 .We went for the sports cruiser style of boat for ease of access for me.
We took a break from boats for about 9 years and started looking at buying again 2 years ago.
This time round we still wanted easy access ,idealy low air draft and minimal steps / ladders , living accommodation on one level and large enough to spend a few weeks at a time on but no larger than 12 metres .There was also some other things that i was looking for - a bed we could both get in and out of easily without any gymnastics , a seperate shower with a seat for me , a helm that was easy to use with good visibility and easy engine access.
We looked at and seriously considered an F37 but i felt the steps up to the fly where very steep and short in depth and the view from the interior helm restricted and not great engine access .
After ruling out aft cabin style boats for years we came across a Broom 35 cl , it has all the space inside that we need ,good view out , the right length and it also as moulded steps at the stern instead of a ladder making it relatively easy for me to get on . It wasn't perfect but we felt with some work it could be made suitable for me .
We are currently getting the stern platform extended , it will total 48" when finished with stern guard rails ,making it a lot safer for boarding .We have redesigned the saloon floor for better engine access - instead of having to roll up the carpet and open a load of small hatches we have Amtico on the floor and 2 large gas assisted hatches .
These changes could easily be done to your boat , before I got the 35cl in looked at a 345 and although it has a ladder if you extend the platform you could get stainless steel steps made to suit . Also if you fitted variable thrust bow and stern thrusters with a remote you could almost moor single handed .
One thing the 35 has over your own is the side door which makes getting into the saloon easy for me rather than having to use the rear saloon steps .
It might work out cheaper to do work on your boat by the time you factor in selling costs and any work you might want doing on a new to you boat and you are getting to keep a boat you know well.
It might be worth talking to Broom to see what they could do .
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Another good suggestion. Thank you.

Your ideas for the stern ladder would certainly solve that problem. The engine access hatch modifications sound ideal.

But, regretfully, it's not just the ladder we have problems with. After a while, we find that going up and down the steps to the galley and also to the aft cabin is a bit wearing. I can't see a way of sorting that. We should have bought this boat about 10 years ago........
 
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