Seahorses AGAIN

Chrusty,

Just for once - possibly the first and last time - I agree with Beadle.

As you know I am widely known as a bleeding heart left wing tree hugger on these fora, but this guy is just out to feed his ego, pay for his hobby and wind up yachties, against whom he seems to have some sort of grudge.

Up here in Scotland conservationists of one stripe or another have taken control of over 12% of the nation's land area, often answerable to no-one but their own internal officebearers. For more on this read Ian Mitchell's Isles of the West

I suggest that the 100m x 100m anchoring ban area experiment should be supported, but it is important that at least one member of the boating lobby is present to see fair play. The experiment is almost certain to be inconclusive however, and this is where it is inevitable that a 'safety first' policy will be advocated. As conserving cute little creatures has overwhelming public support and as yachties have such a lousy image I think anchoring in Studland may be doomed.

Perhaps a few posts showing you weren't all completely and utterly opposed to environmentally sound policy decisions would help /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

- W
 
"as yachties have such a lousy image I think anchoring in Studland may be doomed.

Perhaps a few posts showing you weren't all completely and utterly opposed to environmentally sound policy decisions would help "

Taking the first bit of your post that I quote above, is it really surprising?? Time and again on these fora we see posts from "rich yotties" slagging off and condeming out of hand any kind of conservation. That is what sets me against them, nailing my colours to the mast I have to say that I have considerably more empathy with our environment, than I do with the continually perpetuated self interest of "rich yotties" that is spouted forth here in these forums.

Crown Commisioners have arranged for an independant survey and report of the specified area, so all the posturing and blathering on these forums in just so much hot air, in many cases from people that don't even use Studland, like Mr Beadle for instance?

Taking the second paragraph of the quote........

On these forums!!! Are you kidding!!?? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

PS Tree hugger??? Me??? Naaaa, not really, not very cuddly are they?........

They are all bark and no bite! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Fascinating website - you can donate but you can't join so far as I can see. Are new members of the trust not welcome? And if not, why not? Wonder what the total membership is


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I wondered that too and find it quite strange if not suspicious!

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I've emailed asking if I may join the trust. Not holding my breath. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
I think I'll email them and warn them about a bunch of subversive snotty yotties that are trying to get in by the back door! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Ooooooooooo!

I've just had a keyboarding from a well 'ard yotty! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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I was thinking more in the terms of publicizing what monies they receive and how it is spent - would do it myself but, at the moment, am of no fixed abode.
 
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I've just had a keyboarding from a well 'ard yotty! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Still think you're a prat. But I loved the reply. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Well I'm in good company! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Quite reasonable to have concerns for the environment, but this is not a case where anything is "under threat" from human activity.

The facts are that seahorses have always been there. This person started to see them 5 years ago. The more he dives the more he sees. He has no idea how many were there before other than random sitings. His main reoport is that they seem to be breeding and thriving.

On the other side, the extent of the habitat has grown over the years. The number of yachts anchoring each year has not changed significantly (constraints of time, weather and space). It is true that eel grass is damaged by anchors - I do it regularly, but again this is nothing new.

The major flaw in his argument is that there is no evidence of decline of the population and no link between anchoring and the health of seahorses.

The voluntary ban is in an area where eel grass does not grow because it is rocky rather than sand - also being shallow but with no landing space it is unsuitable for anchoring. So that is not going to tell us anything. The "ban" is probably unenforceable as is the removal of moorings because there is a dispute about whether the Crown has the right to control mooring here.

The only ray of sunshine is that the seahorse tagging project may provide useful information about the lifecycle of the seahorse and the health of the population in the bay. However it will be some years before it provides useful data.
 
"Just for once - possibly the first and last time - I agree with Beadle"

Err no

I distictly remember you and I agreed that tidal turbines were a far better prospect than windmills - which are eyesores and a waste of good wind.

Iknow Iknow - it worries me too - but there you are

I think I agreed with Mr Chrusty once, but that must have been by accident.

I promise not to do it again.

PS To Chrusty

His sort ALWAYS have a smelly dog
 
"I think I agreed with Mr Chrusty once, but that must have been by accident."

Not wishing to rub salt in or anything, but you have agreed with me more than once! It's only fair that your fellow "rich yotties" are made aware of it!

I reckon with a bit more effort on my part, we can make a socialist eco warrior of you yet! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Re the dog, I am surprised that you are reduced to using stereotypes, thought you were above that sort of thing? /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
Yes the rich yottie but gets to me too.

I first anchored in Studland in a 21ft plywood Debutante that cost me £700 and which I sailed for 4 years. To put the price in perspective, I had just sold my Enterprise dinghy for £950 to buy the debutante. My next boat was a Halcyon 23 which cost me an extra £700 over what I sold the Deb for and I had a 3 year loan for that. My next one was a Trident 24 which cost another £700 more than I sold the Halcyon for and it was bought with another loan as the previous one was just paid off. So a long history of cheap boats and lots of effort and TLC interspersed with - you guessed it- lots of happy family weekends in Studland.

I would like to see Studland stay available for use by all just as it has been for a hundred years.
 
It's why it's in quotes........

It's what has been said so often on these threads, I thought I might cause offence if I refered to you as Rif-Raf or Pikies! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
As they have lottery funding and money should be no object a condition should be imposed that they put down loads of fixed moorings in that area and obviously free and at the end of it all leave them there as safe night moorings for us.
 
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