Sea Water in Vanity Unit Sink

Halo said:
Fair point but where I sail we get a phenomenon known as a gust of wind. This comes as a sudden increase in wind and tends to cause rapid heeling. It is possible to have a sail plan that can accomodate gusts without excessive heeling but then one tends to be sailing unacceptably slowly and boring the pants off everyone.
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I show trainees how to keep a weather eye open for the gusts ( approaching rain cloud, or "ruffles" on the water) and dump the main when they arrive.
Attention to sail-trim, halyard tension, backstay tension etc., can also help. A good instructor once pointed out to me the disadvantages of sailing a boat "on its ear" and how to prevent it. I just like to pass these things on. Good luck, olewill.
 
Spirit of Glenans said:
Have you not noticed that overpressing the boat like this just causes a reduction in speed.
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Who says the boat's overpressed? Our sink is right against the hull, just aft of midships, and a matter of inches above the waterline. You don't have to heel far to get backflow with such an installation! Clearly it's not ideal; we always keep the seacock closed when underway. I was thinking of a one-way valve, but a) the seacock is more secure (provided we remember!) and b) the bottom of the sink is so close to the seacock that there's no room for a valve.

Pete
 
AngusMcDoon said:
Not all outlets have seacocks if they are above the waterline when the boat is level. My boat is like that, but then it is always level-ish.
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I don't know what sort of boat you have, Angus, but if she's eiter a monohulled sailing boat or intended to go to sea, you should, in my view, return her to your supplier under the Sale of Goods Act as not fit for purpose.
 
PeterWright said:
I don't know what sort of boat you have, Angus, but if she's either a monohulled sailing boat or intended to go to sea, you should, in my view, return her to your supplier under the Sale of Goods Act as not fit for purpose.
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Really? My boat has outlets without seacocks above the waterline for

(a) Cockpit drains (x2)
(b) Scupper drains (x2)
(c) Bilge pumps (x2)
(d) Engine exhaust
(e) Gas locker drain

Should I be fitting valves to all of these, do you think?
 
So what's an acceptable angle of heel? My boat has slack bilges. There is little form stability. She sails fast whilst heeled and has good manners. 25 degrees is quite common.
The sinks flood when we heel so we keep the seacocks closed. The boat is deep draught and the sinks are low down in the hull so more prone to flooding.
Looks like a change of sink drain may be the answer.
 
Vara said:
On port tack, while shaving the changing pressure in the outlet pops the plug and drains the hot water, very irritating.
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I used to get exactly the same. I now close the seacock instead of putting the plug in. With only about a half-inch of hose between plughole fitting and seacock, it's not like I'm wasting much water that way.

I've been wondering about making some kind of bowden-cable remote control for the seacock so it can be above the counter-top and used instead of a plug full-time. But at the moment the moulded surface is 100% waterproof even with a puddle swishing about it in until we tack, and I don't want to compromise that.

Pete
 
PeterWright said:
I don't know what sort of boat you have, Angus, but if she's eiter a monohulled sailing boat or intended to go to sea, you should, in my view, return her to your supplier under the Sale of Goods Act as not fit for purpose.
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She's a fast trimaran and been cruising around Scotland seemingly for years :)

Pete
 
PeterWright said:
I don't know what sort of boat you have, Angus, but if she's eiter a monohulled sailing boat or intended to go to sea, you should, in my view, return her to your supplier under the Sale of Goods Act as not fit for purpose.
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Trimaran. Just a toy. Nothing about it is fit for sailing purposes or any kind of sea trip according to the wisdom here.



Free sink plug to first person to identify where that is.
 
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Lordy! I just go sailing and, by some miracle, the sea stays outside and the shaving water inside until I'm done with it. Oddly though, I almost feel as if I'm missing out on something.
 
Halo said:
Fair point but where I sail we get a phenomenon known as a gust of wind. This comes as a sudden increase in wind and tends to cause rapid heeling. It is possible to have a sail plan that can accomodate gusts without excessive heeling but then one tends to be sailing unacceptably slowly and boring the pants off everyone.
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+1
Vara said:
On port tack, while shaving the changing pressure in the outlet pops the plug and drains the hot water, very irritating.
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Pretty certain my Galley sink would back fill quite easily. On Stbd Tack, seems the designers thought of that when they built her and put a pump in to empty the sink..

VicS said:
What's "shaving water"?
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Not certain, think its what you end up with when you do not have an electric razor on-board....
 
AngusMcDoon said:
Never missing a good opportunity for fred drift, OED says that vanitory is a trademark...

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Vanitory-unit

What are those words called that are made up of bits of 2 others?
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Angola, early 80s, working for Texaco, some of the Americans were from Louisiana. We had Portakabins, ours had shi tters ensuite. the guest ones didnt. Anyway the boss from Houma says , hey Stu, can you get the boys to put some lavatories in the guest cabins? Yeh says I, so of to the stores, get some shi tters, plumb them in and ask the boss to check them out. god damn Stu, I said lavatories not sh itters! But boss they are lavatories! Turns out that in Louisiana speak, lavatory is a wash hand basin!
Stu
 
skipper_stu said:
Angola, early 80s, working for Texaco, some of the Americans were from Louisiana. We had Portakabins, ours had shi tters ensuite. the guest ones didnt. Anyway the boss from Houma says , hey Stu, can you get the boys to put some lavatories in the guest cabins? Yeh says I, so of to the stores, get some shi tters, plumb them in and ask the boss to check them out. god damn Stu, I said lavatories not sh itters! But boss they are lavatories! Turns out that in Louisiana speak, lavatory is a wash hand basin!
Stu
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:D
 
Rogershaw said:
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Fit one of these
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Halo said:
Nice picture but what is it and where do they sell them?
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http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plu...+Brass+Basin+Plug+Unslotted/d20/sd2907/p93683
or
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plu...+Plug+Basin+Waste+Unslotted/d20/sd2907/p59364
 
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