Screwfix OB1 sealant / adhesive

[sarabande]

It looks as if there has been some deliberate disinformation going on. It's a competitive market, and some sales tactics are questionable at best.

It's always possible that the sales reps are right, and the lady from CET HQ who emailed me, is wrong.

Apologies if I upset you.

 

[V1701]

I always end up buying CT1 online but just been to Screwfix & bought a couple of white and a grey tube of OB1, it must be pretty new as it hasn't yet made it into the paper catalogue they have in the store. Some of the blurb says it's been an industry leading product for 15 years but I don't know when CT1 first appeared. Will be interesting to see how it performs...

 

[viago]

I always end up buying CT1 online but just been to Screwfix & bought a couple of white and a grey tube of OB1, it must be pretty new as it hasn't yet made it into the paper catalogue they have in the store. Some of the blurb says it's been an industry leading product for 15 years but I don't know when CT1 first appeared. Will be interesting to see how it performs...

so much for coming on here and trying to throw your weight around.

not even an apology.

doesn't bode well for ct1 as we are the people who buy it.

has the guy never heard of damage limitation?

he may win a couple of grand in the courts but not be awarded costs as they wont look kindly on the opening salvo.

if it's a hoax post i wouldn't want to be the hoaxer.

 

[C08]

Strangely only sold by Screwfix and they will not deliver-cannot think why that would be?

 

[greeny]

"This statement that you have made publicly is malicious, slanderous, without foundation and completely untrue. Unless you retract this immediately, we will be taking legal action against you in the High Court Belfast, where you will be affixed with all costs. We advise to give you this your most urgent attention. "

I take it that someone on these forus must have reported the post to CTEC as they only joined the forum on the day they posted and I doubt they monitor us as a rule.
Or do these companies have a clever programme running that flags up every time their company is mentioned online?

 

[Cantata]

Or is the new warning at the head of these fora about 'Fake News' something to do with it all?

 

[Mistroma]

"This statement that you have made publicly is malicious, slanderous, without foundation and completely untrue. Unless you retract this immediately, we will be taking legal action against you in the High Court Belfast, where you will be affixed with all costs. We advise to give you this your most urgent attention. "

I take it that someone on these forus must have reported the post to CTEC as they only joined the forum on the day they posted and I doubt they monitor us as a rule.
Or do these companies have a clever programme running that flags up every time their company is mentioned online?

Practical Boat Owner's Reader to Reader forum content is visible to all. You can just Google something specific and it will be listed if that comment or quote does appear in the forum. However, it would still be like finding a needle in a haystack if it was something rather common. You could limit the Google search to a specific domain but that supposes you are looking for something specific in that domain.

Much easier if you have a specific issue and want to monitor it. e.g. Company does something they'd rather hide or become aware of a rumour, possibly started by a rival. Fairly simple to monitor if you already know what you are looking for.

It does make me think that they were already aware if this issue. More likely answer than a company running regular searches for any adverse references to them.

 

[Martymac]

welcome to the forum.

an interesting way to ingratiate yourself into this little community.

i was wondering if you feel this somewhat confrontational attitude does anything to promote either yourself or your products?

might i suggest you start again and should you feel any mutterings here are inaccurate or misleading that you take the time to explain the situation as you see it without resorting to threat.

fyi i have been using ct1 for many years and find it a first rate product.

based entirely on your approach my instinct is to give mr kinobi a spin around the block.

Hi just read your post and I find your approach highly appropriate you should try OB1 most definitely you have used the formulation many times as you have stated and the sabre waving is a typical response.

 

[Martymac]

Yes, seems to agree with Samyl's #9 post where he said it was an improved version of the CT1 formulation. I suspect that the additional component enhances cross-linking to either speed up setting time or strength of the material, probably both. Not my area of expertise, that was mostly related to water soluble organic molecules but I'd guess it promotes formation of urethane links.

I'm considering OB1 as neither Screwfix nor Toolstation sell CT1 and both shops are conveniently located a short drive from my home. I can't see it being worse than CT1 and probably better for my purposes. Still odd that it is difficult to find details of the manufacturer online. I think that must be for some legal reason and won't affect my decision to buy it.

 

[Martymac]

Yes, seems to agree with Samyl's #9 post where he said it was an improved version of the CT1 formulation. I suspect that the additional component enhances cross-linking to either speed up setting time or strength of the material, probably both. Not my area of expertise, that was mostly related to water soluble organic molecules but I'd guess it promotes formation of urethane links.

I'm considering OB1 as neither Screwfix nor Toolstation sell CT1 and both shops are conveniently located a short drive from my home. I can't see it being worse than CT1 and probably better for my purposes. Still odd that it is difficult to find details of the manufacturer online. I think that must be for some legal reason and won't affect my decision to buy it.

Hi the OB1 is a formulation that has been on market for 15 years it will perform exactly as the product you have been using
OB1 is branded direct from manufacturer now

 

[Martymac]

I use CT1 a lot, this looks worth a try as a few quid cheaper...

Hi It certainly is worth a try as it will perform exactly the same as the product you have been using this original formulation has been on market under private label for 15 years only difference now is price as it is coming direct from manufacturer under OB1 brand

 

[SaltIre]

Hi just read your post and I find your approach highly appropriate you should try OB1 most definitely you have used the formulation many times as you have stated and the sabre waving is a typical response.

Hi the OB1 is a formulation that has been on market for 15 years it will perform exactly as the product you have been using
OB1 is branded direct from manufacturer now

Hi It certainly is worth a try as it will perform exactly the same as the product you have been using this original formulation has been on market under private label for 15 years only difference now is price as it is coming direct from manufacturer under OB1 brand

Hi Martymac. You seem to be a fan of OB1. Do you have three boats you use it on?

 

[Martymac]

Hi Martymac. You seem to be a fan of OB1. Do you have three boats you use it on?

Hi Unfortunately not but this formulation I have work with for 15 years and I know it well and exactly what it is and what it was

 

[Spirit (of Glenans)]

This statement that you have made publicly is malicious, slanderous, without foundation and completely untrue. Unless you retract this immediately, we will be taking legal action against you in the High Court Belfast, where you will be affixed with all costs. We advise to give you this your most urgent attention.

It doesn't sound slanderous or malicious to me. It sounds like useful information being imparted. As for it's foundation or truth, well we'll just have to take that on trust, or not, as one does with most things posted on line. IMHO the forumites on here make their posts in good faith.

 

[alahol2]

With nothing better to do and from investigations...
It would appear that the 'OB1' trademark is held by a French goup, Arkema. They seem to be big in industrial adhesives and additives. Bostik and Evostik are two of their companies. Haven't been able to trace who actually makes OB1 yet.

Bostik has a production plant in Dublin.

 

[slawosz]

I need to bond headlining battens (plywood) to GRP roof. Do you think OB1 will be good choice?

 

[Motor_Sailor]

I need to bond headlining battens (plywood) to GRP roof. Do you think OB1 will be good choice?

When cured, things like OB1 ( or PU40 from Toolstation) or PU adhesives like gorilla, all have the strength to hold up headlining panels.

The problem is finding one with sufficient 'grab' to hold itself up to the deckhead while it cures. I don't know about OB1, but I know from experience the other two don't!

 

[slawosz]

When cured, things like OB1 ( or PU40 from Toolstation) or PU adhesives like gorilla, all have the strength to hold up headlining panels.

The problem is finding one with sufficient 'grab' to hold itself up to the deckhead while it cures. I don't know about OB1, but I know from experience the other two don't!

Thanks. I will use support during curing, so it won't be big issue.

 

[Motor_Sailor]

If you can support it, then you have lots of options. I would try and find out what cures the fastest.

 

[slawosz]

If you can support it, then you have lots of options. I would try and find out what cures the fastest.

I will go with OB1 as I have screwfix next to me. I want to actually to attach battens across not along, so there will be some pulling force trying to unbond. Not significant, but I am not sure if OB1 can overcome it. Or I could use epoxy?