Sardinia Summer 2015

[Hurricane]

M, any reason for sticking to Yam 4 sroke?
I for one wouldn't rule out the 60hp E-TEC.

Mainly because it is tried and tested.
Things like - remote controls - gauges - integration etc.
Also the need to carry another fuel on board - oil etc.
Another little thing - my old Yam has a really easy way to flush it after use.
As I say - tried and tested.
I did have a close look at the E-Tec though.
Nearly there with the package - just waiting for some delivery costs.

 

[BartW]

good going on the new tender !

yes indeed with that tender you will be able to do some longer distances,
we had occasions that our kids went up to 20nm distance from the main boat,
and 10 nm is very frequent, especially here in and around the islands of south Croatia,
or upstream a few little creeks,
guests are tempted to go in small private bay's and beaches, or go all around a Island....
this tender is in use a lot of the time when we are on ancher.
very often I go shopping with it, even when we're in a marina, or on our home berth

between two anchorages I alway's put it on the platform, and in a marina I alway's put it on the fly,
except last season;
our crane had a broken bearing, so was out of order the best part of the season,
so in a marina, I either had someone (a guest) saling it in separate, and moore it along or in front of the main ship,
or
put it on the platform, and lower the platform level with the sea surface, before deploying the passerel.


Mike, I think you are in for a hi-lo platform upgrade !
Seriously !
You can not imagine how many times me and swmbo said to each other, how pleased we are with that upgrade, its used all the time, even during the night for the skinny dip
This upgarde is almost as good as our "Stabiliser " upgrade
and so much cheaper

 

[SammyB]

Our first season with a hi-lo and delighted with it!

 

[Hurricane]

Our first season with a hi-lo and delighted with it!

Yea yea - don't rub it in!!

 

[MapisM]

LOL, don't let the turkeys get you down, M.
I'm in my 15th season with no hi-lo platform, and still enjoying every moment!

 

[BartW]

One problem I have with any mod apart from interceptors is that they interfere with my tie-down straps!

my plan was to post pics,, but I explain without;

I have not yet installed the eyes for the tie down straps, as I wanted to have experience about the right position of the tender on the platform, (consideratiosn with the passerel, etc)

and for now, we fix the tender:

1) for short distance, between anchorages, and flat see, with the tender bow rope to BA's stern cleat
and another rope from the tender transom eye to the other stern cleat
(the two cleats that we have added on the outside, approx at the tube hight of the tender)

2) during longer travels, or when bad sea is expected, I bring a strap completely around the hilo platform to the eye's on the tender, and coincidently they go right between the flaps and the tubes .
this is much more easy to do than that it sounds, all is done by one persone, from the platform

I'll post pics at later date.

 

[MapisM]

I'm revamping this epic thread because only just recently I discovered the FB page of a beach bar in San Pietro island, whose opening pic shows a spot now familiar to several forumites who overnighted there.
Not to mention that there's two of us actually anchored in the pic itself...!
...better than a cold November night, 'innit?

This is the FB page, just in case anyone would wish to have a look:
https://www.facebook.com/NiCaletta-beach-bar-1497531033834240/

 

[Hurricane]

Just as well that pic wasn't taken an hour earlier.
Otherwise it would have been of a Flybridge boat going backwards and forwards trying to set its anchor

 

[Pinnacle]

Aaaaahhhhh...................I remember it well!

 

[AndieMac]

Nice pic P, the night we went there it was closed, too early in the season I think?

Something to look forward to next time

 

[jfm]

Great pic, thanks

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

I'm revamping this epic thread because only just recently I discovered the FB page of a beach bar in San Pietro island, whose opening pic shows a spot now familiar to several forumites who overnighted there.
Not to mention that there's two of us actually anchored in the pic itself...!
...better than a cold November night, 'innit?

Bit different to when we last anchored overnight there in August. It must have been blowing a F6 and apart from a small yacht we were the only ones in the bay!

 

[MapisM]

Actually, we did have some SE wind also when we went there that day with Hurricane (as showed by the boats position), but that anchorage is perfect with those conditions.
It should have been fine with a SE blow up to, and even above, F6 - unless there was some residual SW-W-NW swell, maybe?
If so, it can be a bit uncomfy because the SE wind keeps the boat more or less parallel to the beach, with zero fresh waves because sheltered by the cape on the S side of the bay, but the old residual swell is bound to make the boat roll all the time.
Unless zero speed stabbed, that is! Apropos, news...?

 

[MapisM]

Something to look forward to next time

LOL, there's more left to see than you would imagine, C.
Just say when! :encouragement:

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Actually, we did have some SE wind also when we went there that day with Hurricane (as showed by the boats position), but that anchorage is perfect with those conditions.
It should have been fine with a SE blow up to, and even above, F6 - unless there was some residual SW-W-NW swell, maybe?

Yes thats why we went there. We had a perfect calm day in Mezzaluna and everybody on board wanted to stay the night there but I'd seen the forecast and there were strong SE winds forecast so I insisted on moving to Caletta. You can imagine that S and everyone else on board thought I was being a total killjoy! But I was proved right because during the night in Caletta, the wind did get up from the SE and had we stayed in Mezzaluna, I'm not sure even zero speed stabs would have helped! In fact in the morning, I saw from the plotter that actually we'd dragged our anchor a bit even though Caletta was fairly sheltered. Some areas in Caletta are a bit weedy and I don't think the holding is all that good in those areas

 

[MapisM]

In fact in the morning, I saw from the plotter that actually we'd dragged our anchor a bit even though Caletta was fairly sheltered. Some areas in Caletta are a bit weedy and I don't think the holding is all that good in those areas

Wow. Assuming that you released enough chain (which I don't doubt), yes, the hook must have been laying flat above a large-ish weedy area, because you shouldn't have dragged for an F6 alone.
In this respect, contrarily to what common sense suggest, the safer area is the one closer to the beach, because the bottom is mostly sandy and holds very well up to about 300 m from the beach (which btw is also the anchorage limit), while weeds seem to like better the area of the bay further offshore.
The risk is obviously that the closer you are to the shore, the shorter the reaction time if the wind turns into mistral - but it's extremely rare that it does that at night and unpredicted.

 

[Hurricane]

Wow. Assuming that you released enough chain (which I don't doubt), yes, the hook must have been laying flat above a large-ish weedy area, because you shouldn't have dragged for an F6 alone.
In this respect, contrarily to what common sense suggest, the safer area is the one closer to the beach, because the bottom is mostly sandy and holds very well up to about 300 m from the beach (which btw is also the anchorage limit), while weeds seem to like better the area of the bay further offshore.
The risk is obviously that the closer you are to the shore, the shorter the reaction time if the wind turns into mistral - but it's extremely rare that it does that at night and unpredicted.

I'm sure you will remember the day after that pic was taken we all went swimming to the southern tip of that headland.
We took our dinghy.
You went back to CF and we stayed into the evening.
Later, the wind went round to the west and we started dragging a bit as well - but that was with our old chain.
You may remember that we had some difficulty setting the anchor the previous evening.

So, it may be just one of those sandy bottoms that a Delta anchor doesn't like.
Yours stuck like glue.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

while weeds seem to like better the area of the bay further offshore.

Yes we were quite far offshore because I was expecting high winds. Also we came into the bay when it was nearly dark so I didn't actually see the weeds on the seabed until the following morning! In retrospect I wouldn't have dropped my anchor in that area had I seen what it was like. But having said that we had plenty of chain out and set the anchor firmly as we could because I was expecting the wind to strengthen. I suppose the lesson I learnt is not to listen to my guests when they are begging to stay in one bay to see the sunset when I want to go to another

 

[MapisM]

Well, if nothing else they were right re. the sunset - it does look gorgeous, doesn't it?
Btw, your boat is pointing W in that pic, so I guess it was exactly the case I mentioned, with a bit of westerly swell which didn't bother you as long as you were pointing towards it, till the wind turned SE and you had that residual swell hitting you right on your stbd side...

 

[MapisM]

So, it may be just one of those sandy bottoms that a Delta anchor doesn't like.
Yours stuck like glue.

This is exactly my point in all anchors debate.
In terms of shape, there aren't many anchors around which are more archaic than mine.
Otoh, they are pretty heavy vs. the boat size/weight, and I never had any troubles with them in a decade and a half.
That's why I'm always a bit skeptic on some suggestions (small but strong chain, light but hi-tech design anchor, long and elastic bridles...) discussed lately.
Not saying they are wrong, but at the end of the day imho it's much easier to fit the heaviest (and cheaper!) bits of metal the boat can take, throw as much as possible of all that in the water, and go to sleep...