Sailing shoes from Tesco

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I've found that Tesco do an excellent trainer shoe ,very suitable for sailing.
Its called Cherokee a good grippy sole, in fact 2 types available, I've worn them 15 hrs a day for a week or more and very comfortable, not too hot or cold nor sweaty at least for my feet.!
It needs to be a big Tesco that sells clothes, the real plus point is the price...£10

 

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Russian sailing shoes £4 slip-on or laced - same price. All white non-slip soles so no marks on decks etc.

 

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I bought swmbo a pair of Seago boots last Christmas. She loves them. I've been dropping hints ever since but am still sailing in either imitation crocs or green gardening wellies. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I'll continue hints this Christmas. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

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I don't allow wellies to be worn in my tender or any boat of mine unless it's for working on moorings etc.

Having fallen out of a dinghy wearing boots - I can say quite honestly I'm lucky to be alive to post this ! (In days when few wore L/jackets !).

 

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where do you get those from - and dont say Russia!

 

[Slow_boat]

Lithuania. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

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where do you get those from - and dont say Russia!

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China ... imported to Russia and Baltic States. Makers name : LIBANG

 

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Lithuania. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Why Lithuania ? I know they have cheap electronics put together there eg Vido - put together DVD Recorders. I have one and very good it is as well ... £130 with USB as well as usual inputs. But not my sailing shoes.

 

[mikemonty]

I take it these were specially dense wellies?
Were they likely to sink like a stone if put in the water on their own or did they float? Or was this all just a matter of perception?

 

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I don't allow wellies to be worn in my tender or any boat of mine unless it's for working on moorings etc.

Having fallen out of a dinghy wearing boots - I can say quite honestly I'm lucky to be alive to post this ! (In days when few wore L/jackets !).

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I have fallen in the water many times wearing wellies in my dinghy days. There is no problem at all, water within the wellies has the same density as water outside them, net result, no change in flotation at all. I can swim nicely in wellies as a result.

The problem may occour when you pull yourself out of the water, but by the time the wellies come out of the water, most of your body is in the dinghy.

 

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I take it these were specially dense wellies?
Were they likely to sink like a stone if put in the water on their own or did they float? Or was this all just a matter of perception?

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Wellies only float when upside down and air trapped in them. Put them in and able to stay upright they will float based on archimedes principle of displaced volume = to mass of the wellies. BUT push top below water and fill with water and nett result is a brick. Rubber is higher density than water, wellies are full of water - so no buoyancy left.
It's actually a similar principle to Submarines ... fill the tanks and she goes down, empty the tanks and mass is less so volume of water needed to displace is less ....


As to my decision of onboard my boat / in my tender - it's my decision and based on a mind-numbing experience that I do not wish another to repeat. Whether perceived or real, the thought of drowning that occurred was enough to change my view. Sorry but no-one is going to convince me otherwise. Dinghy boots, properly designed sailing wear - OK - I'll accept those, but never wellies.

 

[mikemonty]

Bo**ocks.
The weight of wellies in water filled with water, is the difference between their weight in air (ounces) and the weight of water they displace (maybe slightly fewer ounces, maybe more, I've never tried to float a welly and I doubt you have either) nett result - negligible.
Save your concerns for stuff that's based in fact.

I've swum in wellies and boilersuit before now as part of a merchant navy survival course - no problem.

Incidentallly, the weight of yer wellies should be countered by the buoyancy of your "floatation aid" - you do wear a life jacket don't you?

 

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Bo**ocks.

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Oh excuse me for me for being personal !

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The weight of wellies in water filled with water, is the difference between their weight in air (ounces) and the weight of water they displace (maybe slightly fewer ounces, maybe more, I've never tried to float a welly and I doubt you have either) nett result - negligible.

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Actually not strictly true - but I understand what you arer trying to say - the nett weight is the weight of the wellies themselves - actually what I said, but I did also state that rubber is denser than water - nett - sinks.

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Save your concerns for stuff that's based in fact.

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Suggest you read up Archimedes principles.

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I've swum in wellies and boilersuit before now as part of a merchant navy survival course - no problem.

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Have you ? I know they advise boiler suit, but having done the MN courses myself as I was a Ships Officer previously, I caanot recall wellies being advised. Oh - FYI - I did my survival course in Plymouth Sound of the College Yacht "Tectona" in mid 70's in middle of march - not in some nice warm swimming pool. For Tectona see http://www.tectona.org.uk/

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Incidentallly, the weight of yer wellies should be countered by the buoyancy of your "floatation aid" - you do wear a life jacket don't you?

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Sorry to say this - but shows you failed to read the post completely, I did qualify it by mentioning lack of said acoutrement. Now I suppose I shall be damned to Hell and Eternity for failing to wear a Life-Jacket when quietly fishing on a FW lake in a friends ex military inflatable that I stupidly didn't check his tightening of air valve.

Oh Dear - I am sorry to have upset your day.

My post and explanations stand. It's my life and I feel extremely responsible for anyone who boats with me on my boats. If my decision is over the top as you seem to feel - at least it's on side of SAFE and not other way !

 

[oldsalt]

[Actually not strictly true - but I understand what you arer trying to say - the nett weight is the weight of the wellies themselves - actually what I said, but I did also state that rubber is denser than water - nett - sinks.]

On that basis, steel ships would sink!

The spare change in your pocket would sink you more effectively than waterlogged wellies.

I accept you had a fright, but it does not make it true that wellies are especially dangerous in water.

 

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[Actually not strictly true - but I understand what you arer trying to say - the nett weight is the weight of the wellies themselves - actually what I said, but I did also state that rubber is denser than water - nett - sinks.]

On that basis, steel ships would sink!

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NO - because ships float due to NOT being full to brim of water, they displace water to same mass as they are. The nett here with the wellie is weight of water that has FILLED the wellie subtracted from the total weight of wellie and water.
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The spare change in your pocket would sink you more effectively than waterlogged wellies.


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Maybe .. but being a scrooge - I'm usually accused of having empty pockets !

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I accept you had a fright, but it does not make it true that wellies are especially dangerous in water.

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Think I already covered that by saying perceived or real - the shock was real to me and has fashioned my mistrust of them. It is a decision that affects my boat / tender and use of. As already said - any action that lessens risk is acceptable, my decision does not risk increasing risk.