VicS
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And , if applicable , how to connect male plumbing to ships plumbing.
Safety Briefings / Talks - What do you include with new crew
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And , if applicable , how to connect male plumbing to ships plumbing.
JumbleDuck
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The mind boggles. Vacuum pump?
VicS
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Iliade
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The location of the chopping board, sharp knife, lemons, gin, cold tonic, warm tonic to replenish the 'fridge and of the angosturas lest the tonic runs out or it is getting overly cool outside.
The location of the rum if it's getting very cool outside, together with an admonishment not to spill rum on the cabin heater (again...)
(In reality, all of the above and the usual boring stuff about winches, fingers, flares, booms, bilge pumps, etc etc.)
The location of the rum if it's getting very cool outside, together with an admonishment not to spill rum on the cabin heater (again...)
(In reality, all of the above and the usual boring stuff about winches, fingers, flares, booms, bilge pumps, etc etc.)
dunedin
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Antaris broadly covers it
If includes novices / non sailors I tend to include
- don't worry if it leans a bit - have a lump of lead roughly the weight of a Range Rover strapped underneath (analogy helps make the point)
- boat weighs as much as small lorry - bear that in mind and don't put arms / legs between boat and pontoon etc
- keep out of the way of the boom and ropes
If includes novices / non sailors I tend to include
- don't worry if it leans a bit - have a lump of lead roughly the weight of a Range Rover strapped underneath (analogy helps make the point)
- boat weighs as much as small lorry - bear that in mind and don't put arms / legs between boat and pontoon etc
- keep out of the way of the boom and ropes
theoldsalt
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Much safer to ban from dinghies crew under the influence - recipe for disaster as they often ignore instructions. I might even ban them from the boat also as they sometimes decide to throw-up when & where you least expect or even fall overboard.
ShinyShoe
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Very thorough. Were fire extinguishers on Buy One get Ten Free ? You clearly operate on a far bigger craft than me... but there appears to be a lot of fire extinguishers. Well aware that fire is a huge risk to this kind of boat
Interesting that you keep all lifejackets together. So in the event of a fire in the galley, how does someone in an aft berth get to their LJ?
You have grab bag - but its not on the plan?
Looks like you grab things from around the boat - First Aid Kits x 2, EPIRB, Flares - not marked on plan. I'd prefer my grab bag to contain whats needed so in an emergency anyone leavng the cabin lifts the bag on their way to the cockpit.
Fire procedure does not include transmit mayday. (can you do that from your cockpit?)
Should it say don't take risks to tackle fire.
Enlighten me...
What circumstance would you expect your crew to be making a securite message without you being present?
lpdsn
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I break it down as much as I can. Too much info quickly overloads a novice.
If I can get them to join the night before, gas, fire extinguishers and heads before we go for a beer. Lifejacket and basic VHF before we set off. Can explain how to start and stop the engine when motoring out. Warn about the boom when hoisting the sail, or later if there's not going to be the circumstances for a gybe (accidental or otherwise) in the meantime. Harnesses later on. If you need to explain harness before departure, maybe it's not suitable conditions for a first timer.
I also find bringing out an experienced crew member who knows the boat makes a world of difference. Means when you have to, you can look after the boat and the mate can look after the novices.
And finally, whilst some will be quick learners other novices are never going to be suitable crew. I've some mates I'd never take out on the boat and others I'd only take out for short trips in gentle conditions. If they don't demonstrate practical common sense on land, they aren't going to start on the water.
If I can get them to join the night before, gas, fire extinguishers and heads before we go for a beer. Lifejacket and basic VHF before we set off. Can explain how to start and stop the engine when motoring out. Warn about the boom when hoisting the sail, or later if there's not going to be the circumstances for a gybe (accidental or otherwise) in the meantime. Harnesses later on. If you need to explain harness before departure, maybe it's not suitable conditions for a first timer.
I also find bringing out an experienced crew member who knows the boat makes a world of difference. Means when you have to, you can look after the boat and the mate can look after the novices.
And finally, whilst some will be quick learners other novices are never going to be suitable crew. I've some mates I'd never take out on the boat and others I'd only take out for short trips in gentle conditions. If they don't demonstrate practical common sense on land, they aren't going to start on the water.
blackbeard
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Problem is, a novice will not remember more than 3 items from an initial briefing. One of which might be, any illicit object (ie not previously eaten or drunk) found blocking the loo will be rinsed and exhibited for the instruction and amusement of other crew members.
Also, do not place any part of your anatomy between the boat and a solid object such as a pontoon or another boat. Use a fender if necessary, it's made to cushion an impact without leaving nasty red sticky marks.
And that red button on the radio. Not to be used if the skipper is conscious and on board.
More detailed instructions are inside the covers of the log book.
That will do as a start, other items can be covered as we go along. Mention the boom when hoisting sails; fire extinguishers and gas safety procedures when about to start cooking; everyone to select and don lifejackets before leaving dock. And so on ...
Also, do not place any part of your anatomy between the boat and a solid object such as a pontoon or another boat. Use a fender if necessary, it's made to cushion an impact without leaving nasty red sticky marks.
And that red button on the radio. Not to be used if the skipper is conscious and on board.
More detailed instructions are inside the covers of the log book.
That will do as a start, other items can be covered as we go along. Mention the boom when hoisting sails; fire extinguishers and gas safety procedures when about to start cooking; everyone to select and don lifejackets before leaving dock. And so on ...
laika
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The winches part of my briefing focuses quite a lot on the relative importance of the thumb in terms of evolutionary advantage...
(Other than that can't argue with anything SAPurdie says)
Greenheart
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I suddenly realised recently that the shelf where I keep my boat-bits at home, looks like a chemical-weapons base. No limit to the harm unwitting individuals might do themselves...
...caustic paint stripper, irritants like acetone, carcinogenic hardeners/catalysts for epoxy & polyester resins, paints, thinners, loads of inflammable and toxic stuff. If guests were inclined to go through cupboards looking for cleaners (or drinks!) it may be worth pointing out that lots of the stuff used for maintenance on board can be very dangerous if misused.
Is it worth making sure that everybody, everybody has been supplied with (and has swallowed) motion-sickness tablets, long enough in advance to ensure effectiveness?
...caustic paint stripper, irritants like acetone, carcinogenic hardeners/catalysts for epoxy & polyester resins, paints, thinners, loads of inflammable and toxic stuff. If guests were inclined to go through cupboards looking for cleaners (or drinks!) it may be worth pointing out that lots of the stuff used for maintenance on board can be very dangerous if misused.
Is it worth making sure that everybody, everybody has been supplied with (and has swallowed) motion-sickness tablets, long enough in advance to ensure effectiveness?
William_H
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I do a bit of sail training on the little boat. So safety briefing becomes a 1hr session about sailing before going on board. We emphasise drinking lots of water. Don't be afraid to use the bucket. Sun screen, cover up clothing etc. On board number one rule hang on at all times and don't jump in the water no matter what. This refers to occasions when the mast goes horizontal. Also be careful of boom. It is quite low though now made of carbon fibre is light weight so not so dangerous.
In the cabin I point out how to turn the radio on and call on ch 16 if I go overboard. Location of first aid kit, flares, bucket etc. It is all part of the total lesson.
Don't forget instruction on how to operate infaltable LJs. Though I more often use buoyancy vests for crew and myself. olewill
In the cabin I point out how to turn the radio on and call on ch 16 if I go overboard. Location of first aid kit, flares, bucket etc. It is all part of the total lesson.
Don't forget instruction on how to operate infaltable LJs. Though I more often use buoyancy vests for crew and myself. olewill
RupertW
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I try to keep initial instruction to a minimum then explain further things as I go.
So, just two things on the boat can kill you, and two most likely to injure you.
Death:
1) Point out the boom, explain that it could swing rapidly across the boat and will kill if hits head
2) Going overboard - we could lose you in 30 seconds so no matter what you have to let go of, keep yourself on the boat
Injuries:
1) You will crush your hand if it gets caught in a winch or block (point these out), so always keep hands on rope at least a foot away from any equipment, never wrap it round your hand and just let go if you can't hold it.
2) You will crush your foot if it gets between the boat and anything else - these inflated plastic things are there for that job, so you may be asked to move one up and down the boat but I'd rather have the boat grind against something then get a great big bloodstain from you trying to do it.
Everything else from leaving the berth to using the loo, to tacking, to the necessity to shut cupboards is given as specific instructions and warnings as the day goes on.
So, just two things on the boat can kill you, and two most likely to injure you.
Death:
1) Point out the boom, explain that it could swing rapidly across the boat and will kill if hits head
2) Going overboard - we could lose you in 30 seconds so no matter what you have to let go of, keep yourself on the boat
Injuries:
1) You will crush your hand if it gets caught in a winch or block (point these out), so always keep hands on rope at least a foot away from any equipment, never wrap it round your hand and just let go if you can't hold it.
2) You will crush your foot if it gets between the boat and anything else - these inflated plastic things are there for that job, so you may be asked to move one up and down the boat but I'd rather have the boat grind against something then get a great big bloodstain from you trying to do it.
Everything else from leaving the berth to using the loo, to tacking, to the necessity to shut cupboards is given as specific instructions and warnings as the day goes on.
alant
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When at sea, sit down to pee!
alant
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Fairly obvious, considering the appetites of stuff 'in' the water out in Oz!
PS
What weight of boom, when moving across a boat deck, makes it "less dangerous"?
alant
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+ Always wrap a line around a winch, before releasing a spinlock!
(2) No 'pink' bits outside the boat.
JumbleDuck
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Much more fun with a well sealed Lavac. I expect.
Fantasie 19
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Assume you are still sailing the boat by yourself - show the guest how to work a lifejacket, switch the cooker on (for tea), and where the bucket is - anything else you would have been doing yourself anyway...
alant
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Have to be well rigged, to make a seal!
DanTribe
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Reminds me of fitting instructions for the electric version of Lavacs
Ensure that the operating switch cannot be reached while sitting!
