Blueboatman
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Someone had a perfectly ok and shiny CO32 up for just shy of £10k at Eastbourne v recently.
Interior and sails etc to be upgraded but essentially, a sailaway.
Sadler 32
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Interior and sails etc to be upgraded but essentially, a sailaway.
Babylon
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Recycling everything recyclable (and also re-selling plenty of bits with some value) is the only way to go.
Looks horrible, but we do it all the time with old cars, fridges, cookers, and tons of other consumer durables:
Hunter Horizon Boat Disposal (i.e. smashing it up)
And where's there's muck there's brass:
What can be Salvaged from a Sunseeker Monterey 27?
There's also a serious environmental aspect too:
The problem with old plastic boats. And what to do about it. Clean Ocean Sailing joins us (Halcyon Yachts) to explain
Looks horrible, but we do it all the time with old cars, fridges, cookers, and tons of other consumer durables:
Hunter Horizon Boat Disposal (i.e. smashing it up)
And where's there's muck there's brass:
What can be Salvaged from a Sunseeker Monterey 27?
There's also a serious environmental aspect too:
The problem with old plastic boats. And what to do about it. Clean Ocean Sailing joins us (Halcyon Yachts) to explain
Egret
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So if a 1988 vintage boat has been epoxy'd and coppercoated and looks OK, is it worth while having it lifted out each winter - will it dry out - or is it better just to accept osmosis maybe and set aside the £1000 approx lift out and storage cost each year for remedial work, maybe, at some in the future.
potentillaCO32
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I have kept my boat in the water, marina, over winter as it is safer there. Unlikely to be blown over, not going to freeze, stays cleaner. But i always get it lifted and out for a few says to clean her, change anodes do other work etc. So it isnt cheaper but a good choice.
Greenheart
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Whether that's persuasive is dependent on time of life and circumstances - it's highly applicable for retirees. I've simply been too busy working for five years, to ever regret not owning. If I'd been paying so much to berth a boat I was almost never free to use...crazy. That said, I was aboard my Achilles most summer weekends while she was a short walk from home, but it still didn't feel a reasonable cost.
I may be very tight-fisted about mooring, though it surprises me because I cheerfully accept the costs of other indulgences. To me, the boat-owning world seems to have given a collective shrug and accepted how much foldable cash dribbles away every day like diesel from a rusty tank.
I hope you're right! If that's the case, I've really done it right - five years of dreaming, no boat, no cost.
I hope moving home (whenever that happens) will sort it for me. When I have a drive or garden space to park a trailable boat, I can limit mooring payments to periods of likely reasonable weather when I anticipate being frequently free to sail.
Regarding the fate of boats like the OP's Sadler, too big to trail, too expensive to berth on a shoestring and in a state that may not warrant the cost and effort of restoration, can we be surprised there are few takers - particularly energetic busy working-age types?
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Flynnbarr
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Good solid keels on that Hunter Horizon !
Gixer
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Egret
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Hunters built for the Southend foreshore and the Crouch - good to see the keels are so tough - gives great confidence - won't need to worry about grounding from time to time - wonder what was so wrong with this one to justify scrapping
Back on the topic - let's hope that the Sadler 32 Joanne Clare finds a new owner with a bit of time to sort it, if it's not totally terminal
Back on the topic - let's hope that the Sadler 32 Joanne Clare finds a new owner with a bit of time to sort it, if it's not totally terminal
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Ian West
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Thanks everyone for all your replies. I went down Sunday and emptied her of everything, she should be sailing around to Gosport on Wednesday after 45yrs since launch in Chichester. A few people did show an interest but I think the risk of Delamination in the hull was a step to far. She leaves us with a wealth of memories, from Holland(not by me)to St Malo and the Channel islands.
Happy sailing to all of you.
Happy sailing to all of you.
Babylon
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Surface blisters are one thing - loads of boat have them to no ill effect - but it sounds like the problem here ran much deeper.
Well done Ian for processing the job.
potentillaCO32
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I would love to have seen a copy of the survey
Babylon
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I was actually going to say the same thing!
nestawayboats
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Re the mooring issue well this year I got the proposed bill, nearly fainted, and after some research switched to a deepwater swinging mooring in Portsmouth Harbour, for £1200 a year. Now admittedly it is a bit of a dinghy ride - about 15 mins each way with an electric outboard 
- but when that means £100 a month instead of £100 a week (and it could quite easily be £150 a week elsewhere in the Solent), the maths is pretty good.
OK it is "man maths" and you can change the variables but if for convenience sake we say I go out to the boat 12 times a year, and my savings just happen to be £300 a month, then during those 30 minute dinghy round trips one could say I'm "earning" £10 a minute. Or in fact not spending £10 a minute, out of post tax/NI income... so then with a bit of rounding we can call it £20 a minute (£1200 an hour)!
- but when that means £100 a month instead of £100 a week (and it could quite easily be £150 a week elsewhere in the Solent), the maths is pretty good.OK it is "man maths" and you can change the variables but if for convenience sake we say I go out to the boat 12 times a year, and my savings just happen to be £300 a month, then during those 30 minute dinghy round trips one could say I'm "earning" £10 a minute. Or in fact not spending £10 a minute, out of post tax/NI income... so then with a bit of rounding we can call it £20 a minute (£1200 an hour)!
Mark-1
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The severity can be roughly gauged by whether Gosport Boatyard presents her as a going concern or not.
Largely academic. Even if she was perfect, the owner has sacrificed a low number of thousands of pounds for a totally hassle free disposal. That's a good deal IMHO.