Gixer
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You are right Mark-1, mooring fee's really do change the perspective.
Breaks the heart.
Breaks the heart.
Sadler 32
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Tranona
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You won't get anything done before January - scrapping it or selling. Suggest move it round the corner to here dellquay.com/yard-services/, get it lifted out and stored ashore - about £45 a week. No point in paying 4 times as much for a berth.
Nonsense to scrap a boat like that and even if you try it will cost you money. Thousands of boats are in use with osmosis and while it may make selling a bit more difficult a boat or that quality will find a buyer if the price is right. Having it out of the water will enable you to find out more about the osmosis, help dry it out and give buyers the opportunity to inspect at no cost compared with being in the water
Nonsense to scrap a boat like that and even if you try it will cost you money. Thousands of boats are in use with osmosis and while it may make selling a bit more difficult a boat or that quality will find a buyer if the price is right. Having it out of the water will enable you to find out more about the osmosis, help dry it out and give buyers the opportunity to inspect at no cost compared with being in the water
dunedin
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Sounds like top advice from Tranona - I don’t know the area, but moving to a cheaper location and lifting ashore sounds like an urgent priority to reduce marina fees. And would need to pay for a lift ashore even if scrapping (which looks unnecessary for a popular boat like the Sadler 32).
Ian W - Tranona is an extremely knowledgeable poster with lots of experience
Mark-1
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I'm a short walk away so if the OP chooses this option (or perhaps has to choose this option) I'm happy to help bring it round and/or offer lifts.
I know Gosport Boat Breakers have collected from DQ yard in the past so in theory it could be scrapped from there if size isn't an issue. (If that became plan A.)
I must confess, once it's there I have visions of it sitting there accumulating mildew and bills for eternity, but maybe not.
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Mark-1
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True, and his suggestion of a cheap nearby yard is probably the most useful of the thread.
However, he hasn’t eagerly jumped at the opportunity to take on the boat for £0, which indicates that he doesn’t see enough value in it to make it worth his effort. Nor has anyone else in this thread. It’s not surprising, then, if the OP reaches the same conclusion and chooses to cut his losses.
Tranona
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I have enough on my hands without taking on another project! DQ are very helpful and pretty sure would collect the boat from the marina. You are right it may end up sitting there if he does not make the effort to find a buyer - even if it is an ebay auction. Key thing is to avoid paying for the berth in the marina and give a bit of breathing space to make a sensible decision.
winch2
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Yep DQ is the place to be, (know it well with the best rates on the south coast) and, they'll easily collect from Chi too.
billyfish
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I agree. Dell Quey boat yard . Phone Andy or John if they have room I'm sure they will help.
Mark-1
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Iliade
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My lad is looking for a low cost boat to be kept on, probably, a drying mooring... Can someone point me to the advert please?
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xyachtdave
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Surely £0 fits the first part of his brief!
Mark-1
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potentillaCO32
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Very sad that the decline of the UK market has come to this. That the value of old 70s 80s 90s boats has dropped such that it is dwarfed by the operating costs making any that are not tip top effectively worthless.
Even sadder that a yacht such as a sadler 32, an aspirational boat in it's day could suffer this.
But it is happening all around. The yard in essex that my boat is in is seeing about 1 boat a week being dragged from the back and taken off to be ground up.
Very sad. But young people aren't interested anymore, at least in numbers. This forum probably is the best example of the traditional sailing demographic. Our sailing association has no young people.
Yacht clubs with a strong cadet section still thrive but few migrate to sail boat ownership, at least in the uk.
The UK climate doesn't help.
Sad to see the likely fate of this Sadler.
Perhaps after a few years of this post covid boom then cull, the demand supply curve will re establish when enough old boats are taken out.
Even sadder that a yacht such as a sadler 32, an aspirational boat in it's day could suffer this.
But it is happening all around. The yard in essex that my boat is in is seeing about 1 boat a week being dragged from the back and taken off to be ground up.
Very sad. But young people aren't interested anymore, at least in numbers. This forum probably is the best example of the traditional sailing demographic. Our sailing association has no young people.
Yacht clubs with a strong cadet section still thrive but few migrate to sail boat ownership, at least in the uk.
The UK climate doesn't help.
Sad to see the likely fate of this Sadler.
Perhaps after a few years of this post covid boom then cull, the demand supply curve will re establish when enough old boats are taken out.
ylop
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I’m not sure young people were ever really interested in serious numbers in yacht ownership! The reality is cost of owning a yacht is now so expensive, and flights relatively cheap that chartering something where the maintenance is someone else’s problem and you can take a year off if other commitments get in the way. There’s plenty of young people still interested in and active in sailing - they just, mostly, aren’t looking for 1980’s boats designed to fit with the racing rules of the time - when if you can afford the upkeep you can likely afford something more modern.
Mark-1
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Agree, and 'aspirational' is a really good term for it. To me these were the modern classy yachts that people of my generation lusted after as kids. I can't think of a car or modern boat equivalent but it's from a time of Yuppies and shiney Golf GTIs and people (pretending that they) worked in the city. You definitely looked down on a boxy Westerly if you were on a Sadler 32 in a way I don't think you would today.
That's just my memory of my perception, other perceptions are available. TBH other memories are too, even within my own head.
...the good news is, even if it goes to a scrappie I suspect this boat will be moved on as a going concern. With luck someone will take it on, sail it all spring, grind out a few blisters on a hot summer week, fill with epoxy and its adventures will continue.
This. If you measure sailing participation by mile or by day on board I bet it hasn't dropped off at all. The advantages of ownership were always a bit tenuous.
Ian West
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She's a fin keel so won't take the ground unfortunately
Ian West
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She's a fin keel, if you google Joanne Clare yacht the advert still appears
Ian West
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Some fabulous summer holidays spent on her, my uncle and his friend self built her after purchasing the hull as a shell. W She's cruised around Holland, France and the Channel islands, some wonderful memories, would love someone to take her on.Well yeah, but in three weeks time there's an 8k mooring bill arriving on the doormat. Putting it on a swinging mooring might save a few quid but will still be several thousand and make it even harder to view.
Giving away feels like a totally valid option to me, even if we regard the alleged Osmosis as a trivial issue. (Which I do.) Is someone going to buy even a perfect Sadler 32 in mid winter within 3 weeks? Unlikely.
Easy to be wise now, but this boat on sale in mid summer with 6 months of paid mooring in front of it would have been a very different prospect.
I've found the ad too. Love the fresh synthetic teak. Suggests it's been well loved until recently. If it ends up with Home Page in Portsmouth I hope they sell rather than scrapping.
I'd love to read a biography of the boat after 45 years in the same ownership. Plenty of brilliant adventures and summer holidays there.