Sacked 11/11/ @ 11.00 Hrs

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Sacked for observing the silence at 11.00 11/11/04!

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A good mate has been sacked for gross mis conduct when he stopped work for 2 mins silence along with 8 others at 11.00 last Thursday.

The job was not such that it really was noticed nor mattered one hoot, it seems that a bl00dy -minded supervisor has taken things too far so all 9 blokes were requested to sign a statement so they would have the 'charge' dropped. The statement declared that they would not do the same thing next year!.....all 9 have refused and have been sacked...how sad.

The roles concerned were about baggage handling at Bristol Airport. and by the way, if a real deadline in terms of turning an aircraft about was in question then the lads would have used thier initiative ...in this case there were no pressing time constraints....

Lest we never forget and all that


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My immediate impression is poor management. My second is to boot the supervisor out into the front line with the Black watch for some attitude ajustment.

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Their boss needs the sack/public flogging/the stocks/ripped a new

delete as applicable

the country is going to the dogs, plans in motion, we'll be voting with our feet.

fin

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Sad, when you think when I started work in the Midlands in the early 60's, at 10.59 the works siren sounded, and all 5,000 workers, unless on a continuous processes, stopped workd for a minutes silence. This also happened on all the firms around us.

On a side issue, in those days the works had a fixed tea break in the morning, the factory stopped for dinner, if you worked overtime there was another tea break, for a penny a week I had membership to, football, rugby, cricket,tennis, lecross?, archery, bowls, fishing, rally club, rifle shooting,snooker, billiards, darts, cards, netball, basket ball, gardening club, choir, drama, dancing. We had a doctor, a dentist, optician, full nursery all free.

Were are we going, bar down hill fast.


Brian

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If that is the case he should immediately seek legal advice. Prima facie it would seem that this is not grounds for immediate dismissal unless of course they were in the middle of heart massage or sumfink like that. It would also appear that proper procedures have not been observed. Bad call by the supervisor I'd think.

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Re: Careful

This sounds a bit fishey.

I don't know many places were a supervisor can sack all of his workers.

They'd have a nailed on case at the tribunal. The baggage would back up a bit to.

At the tribunal the companies PR would take a stiff kicking. I suspect if the P45's are being handed out it would be to the supervisor who suggested this as a good idea.

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Re: Careful

sounds like that story about the iraquis stealing incubators in kuwait. would have been horrendous if true but turned out to be a mischievous invention.

is there any proof that this happened or is it just another urban myth???

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If only, getting the sack was so easy. At my age I'd never be able to get another job and wouldn't do another days work for the rest of my life. I would have to sell my house, my car and my wife and take to the high seas. That would be a shame, wouldn't it?

kim

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Neither do I. Gross Misconduct is the only way and there's no way they would get that to stick.

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Sounds like an urban myth to me, or someone would have found supporting evidence on a news website by now.

In any event, if they were airport baggage handlers, how on earth could anyone tell that they'd stopped work? Presumably somebody noticed that they'd stopped rifling the passengers' luggage............/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif



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Thank you for your e-mail

I have forwarded your e-mail onto the manager of Servisair (baggage handling agent).

Regards

Sam Young
"roger winter" <sailorman@tiscali.co.uk>


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From personal experience of flying through Bristol, I cant imagine that a few baggage handlers standing round doing nothing much would even cause comment. The story smacks of "selling papers" and even if part true I would be wondering about general IR / Union probs of which this would be but a minor part. And as everyone has said, you simply cant fire people like that.

Anyway, to be contentious, I dont think standing around for two minutes thinking how bored you are does anything for the people who died in the Great War. The reality is that for the large majority of the living population of this country, war is at best a theoretical thing seen only in American films. You would have to be in your 80's to remember going through one! So I reckon its time to stop, get rid of all the old wartime films on TV, and start looking to a conflict free future rather than a conflict ridden distant past.

IMHO this country lives far too much in the past.

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Can't let that past without comment. While I respect your right to comment on your own feelings regarding the Silence, I find your obvious mis understanding of it really puzzling. Are you just naturally argumentive, or is it just ignorance? The ceremonies are not for the Great War - its a rememberance ceremony for all who have fallen in the service of this country, wherever and whenever.

Since 1945 alone, there have been conflicts in India, Palestine, Malaya, Korea, Suez Canal Zone, Kenya, Cyprus, Suez 1956, Borneo, Vietnam, Aden, Radfan, Oman, Dhofar, Northern Ireland, the Falklands War, the Gulf War, Bosnia, Kosovo, Sierra Leone, Iraq and others where British servicemen and women have given their lives.

This country has lost servicemen on active service every year since 1945 except for one. Poppies, the silence, the parades, the whole caboodle won't do anything for anyone lost in any conflict - I think most people realise that without being told. What it does do, is show a peoples appreciation, sadness and greatfulness to those who have been lost in this countries service.

It does not glorify war, justify it or defend it. Its a simple human response to the awful loss of not just the Great War, but every conflict since. It also includes our recent losses in the Gulf. I'm sure a moments reflection on your part would make you realise just how sad your suggestion of "getting rid of the past" might sound to those who have just lost family from the Black Watch.


Kipling :

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap.
An' hustlin' drunkin soldiers when they're goin large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin in full kit.

Then its Tommy this, an Tommy that, an "Tommy ow's yer soul?"
But its "Thin red line of 'eroes when the drums begin to roll"
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll.
Oh its "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.


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