S23; S25 what went wrong

CLB said:
I think the buyers made their way to the Jeanneau/Beneteau/other random sports fisher dealer's door. The market has changed. The small sportsboat has been replaced by something more practical and they are selling in greater numbers than the S23 et al ever did.
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CLB said:
I think the buyers made their way to the Jeanneau/Beneteau/other random sports fisher dealer's door. The market has changed. The small sportsboat has been replaced by something more practical and they are selling in greater numbers than the S23 et al ever did.
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I can't see the attraction of the sports fisher form factor. Maybe I'm just weird.
 
petem said:
I can't see the attraction of the sports fisher form factor. Maybe I'm just weird.
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I don’t either, you can do a lot more with a small cruiser like the S23 than you can with a sports fisher of similar size, unless of course you want to fish.
 
Me neither but you cant buck the trend. Look what they have done to cars. I wont upgrade my Disco 3 because the latest evolution, is just ...well...pants. From having a real presence to looking like a hairdressers car on raised suspension with a boot to match. No thanks
 
petem said:
Putting BBQ's to one side, I think the question of "S23; S25 what went wrong" actually need to go further. I'd ask what happened to the S23, the S28, the S34 and the S37 (plus their counterparts from FL, Pr and S/S). OK Sealine might make a C330 and FL will be making an F-Line 33 but none of these offer an equivalent replacement for the boats above (open top, two cabins, galley downstairs). All of these boats sold in their droves, where did the buyers go? Is it really the case now that anything under 40 foot will be a villa owners day boat?
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As has been said, popular, and profitable, are not the same thing.

If you have limited factory space and employees, are you going to use those resources to make three 26ft boats that will make you £25,000 each, or one 50ft boat that will make you £150,000?

Especially when your 26ft boat is competing with the sheer size, scale and resources of Beneteau, Bayliner, Jeanneau etc.
 
I have to admit they are growing on me - have you looked at the new Jeanneau 1095?
Side door for easy mooring, high bulwarks, twin petrol outboards you can lift out of the water when you are away. Easy servicing, Unlikely to get fuel bug. Be great on rivers and lakes.
Looks pretty spacious for its size. Lot more practical than an Axopar 37.
 
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kashurst said:
I have to admit they are growing on me - have you looked at the new Jeanneau 1095?
Side door for easy mooring, high bulwarks, twin petrol outboards you can lift out of the water when you are away. Easy servicing, Unlikely to get fuel bug. Be great on rivers and lakes.
Looks pretty spacious for its size. Lot more practical than an Axopar 37.
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.......and fuel burn to make your eyes water! :eek:
 
I once saw a post on the US Bayliner owners club site that talked about the best deep fat fryer to have on the boat!
 
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