sailorman
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rapping or frapping
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RYA-WHY?
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tome
New member
Or just flapping?
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aitchw
New member
Re: While the RYA isn\'t perfect..
You make the strongest argument there is for membership in saying as you have.
The RYA is an Association representing it's members interests and those of the wider boating community. The more members there are the louder their voice. The more involved the members the more the views and actions of the RYA are likely to reflect the true position of those members.
I have not as yet joined but know I should and will do so. I am an involved and active member of my Class Associations and sailing club all of which are RYA affiliated. To join as an individual is the next logical step.
Thankyou forumites for helping me make the decision.
Howard
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You make the strongest argument there is for membership in saying as you have.
The RYA is an Association representing it's members interests and those of the wider boating community. The more members there are the louder their voice. The more involved the members the more the views and actions of the RYA are likely to reflect the true position of those members.
I have not as yet joined but know I should and will do so. I am an involved and active member of my Class Associations and sailing club all of which are RYA affiliated. To join as an individual is the next logical step.
Thankyou forumites for helping me make the decision.
Howard
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Peppermint
New member
Re: Thats good BUT!
Don't get me on to whats wrong at the RYA. Whether they're the right organization to represent us the way they are constituted or the reality gap they seem to suffer from.
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Don't get me on to whats wrong at the RYA. Whether they're the right organization to represent us the way they are constituted or the reality gap they seem to suffer from.
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sailorman
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Re: Thats good BUT!
i vote each year but dont get informed who was elected
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i vote each year but dont get informed who was elected
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Peppermint
New member
Re:It\'s like
some sort of ex soviet republic don't you think?
Communicating with the members is another problem.
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some sort of ex soviet republic don't you think?
Communicating with the members is another problem.
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Mudplugger
New member
Penpal, re RYA and why need to be a member, lots of responses some informative & some less so. True to say that the RYA represents all users in all parts of GB, bearing in mind that Welsh, Scots & Irish have own Equivalents. I Think 6 regional committees, made up of Area & Association representatives, eg Colne & Blackwater S A. Much is the work that goes on behind the scenes re Planning issues, Grant aid, Sail Training, Facility Improvements, Protecting Moorings from the ravages of Plannining C'ttees, Liason with other groupings eg, CA,English Nature etc, Supporting Clubs facing litigation/Limitation of activities at al, et al. Please remember that this is a democratic organisation, run by local voluntteers, and like an iceberg most of what goes on, is not publicised! What is discussed is tends to be the activities of H.O in regard to national issues, Certification, Education,Olympics, and so on. For what you get for your money...good value, if you compare with the CA for example (£106pa now) and a lot of the E.U. limitations would have been foisted upon us if had not been for RYA going in to bat!
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alec
New member
I am very confused with both of your posts.
First you say why is the RYA not doing having any success with x y and z, then you state you do not have much of an opinion on these anyway ?
What exactly do you want the RYA to do on your behalf as a cruising yachtsman apart from making fisherman mark their pots better ? What alternative body would you suggest takes it's place and what do you think would happen if no body at all existed.
Be specific please.
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First you say why is the RYA not doing having any success with x y and z, then you state you do not have much of an opinion on these anyway ?
What exactly do you want the RYA to do on your behalf as a cruising yachtsman apart from making fisherman mark their pots better ? What alternative body would you suggest takes it's place and what do you think would happen if no body at all existed.
Be specific please.
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Mike_Martin
New member
Re:It\'s like
Maybe I should ask them if they need an external relations/communications man?!
Mike
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Maybe I should ask them if they need an external relations/communications man?!
Mike
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bedouin
Well-known member
I was trying to question whether the RYA actually achieves anything for the cruising yachtsman - and was trying to get someone to be specific as to what they have done recently in the way of successfully representing our interests.
I gave a few areas where I would have expected RYA to be campaigning for sailors but apparently either had not done so, or at least had not done so successfully.
I would like to see RYA acting more proactively. Opposing unecessary legislation, taking a posiiton in the debate about mooring rights, doing something about marking lobster pots and so on.
Instead they seem to see themselves as a governing body not a campaigning body.
Maybe they do more than I realise - but if so their PR is very poor.
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I gave a few areas where I would have expected RYA to be campaigning for sailors but apparently either had not done so, or at least had not done so successfully.
I would like to see RYA acting more proactively. Opposing unecessary legislation, taking a posiiton in the debate about mooring rights, doing something about marking lobster pots and so on.
Instead they seem to see themselves as a governing body not a campaigning body.
Maybe they do more than I realise - but if so their PR is very poor.
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Kurrawong_Kid
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I declare an interest-I'm a member of a Regional RYA Committee. I am trying to influence the RYA to be more effective, but to no real success. In my view the trouble is that they (the Council and Secretariat) receive too much Government money to subsidise this and that; so they employ too many staff with this money, who then dare not say boo to a goose or they will lose their jobs! We should have mirrored the mountaineers years ago and let the government sort out training and what they want, whilst we fight them over their proposals with a free hand. At least then Club members would not have to give up so much voluntary time to teach sailing which then stops them doing their own sailing!
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William_H
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Just as a matter of interest the Yachting Association of Australia is the equivalent of the RYA however any member of any yacht club becomes a member of YA. Something near half of my Yacht Club fees go to YA for registration. The money goes to lobeying training schemes and also to competitive sailing developement (perhaps morer than I would wish) . The YA are constantly pushing to have all crews of competitive keel boats members of a club therefore of YA by holding a Silver (so called) competancy card. (no training or test required) fortunately despite risk of protest this is often ignored. I think you are lucky in UK to have membership of RYA optional. will
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Greenwichman
Member
The RYA's membership is growing steadily, apparently, suggesting that an increasing number of us find that their lobbying is the best we have - tho not perfect. Personally, I think the small subs per year well spent and I wish them luck in opposing the dead hand of class-envy-driven bureaucracy wherever it emerges. The poor old RYA will not win every battle, but they would win more of them if more of us joined up and added weight to their authority.
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