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If your wife wants to help young people learn to sail and teach them about seamanship, then there are various volantary youth sailing charities based around the UK. One particular organisation is the OYT who are split into several indipendant charatable organisations throught the UK.
http://www.oyt.org.uk/

In addition to onwater sailing (where the young people gain practical certificates), there are local support groups who sometimes run RYA theory courses aswell (and may welcome some help). Why dont you make contact with your local OYT (or other sailing trust) and get involved!
 
"I have an ICC application form in front of me, Day Skipper practical is acceptable evidence of competence for an ICC, amongst many other similar levels. "

This is my understanding as well. Has it changed, hope not as I am shortly to apply for one -
 
No, the ICC has not changed, there seems to have been a communication problem - whether sending or receiving is hard to say. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
You certainly think you know all that is necessary - and this may be true. Unfortunately you don't pick up points well from other answers - so here is another one you won't like.
One of the purposes of gaining an instructors qualification is to be assessed in your ability to teach the skills - not to just know them.
When I did mine, they failed a very experienced (and arrogant) skipper as he had no sensitivity and no teaching skills. You demonstrate the same attitude in your posts.
The RYA method has been developed by ordinary sailors and instructors over a period of 40 years. It works. Sorry you don't like it.
I do. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
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kds, I think the original post was about Tangomoon's wife wanting to instruct, not TM himself, so his personal suitability as an instructor is a bit off the point.
I would say try not to be put off by a few hundred quid, you could always do a bit of commercial training to recoup that. The people I know who do instruct kids seem to find it quite worthwhile.
 
As with many others you have missed what was said.

We have not said we want the cost reduced.

We do not wish to see the cost reduced (it would be nice).

What is being said is what point having to have Yachtmaster practical to teach the much lesser Day Skipper Theory.

Thus had you read the post properly you would not be drivelling on about insurance being high when it is nothing to do with being at sea on boats for the practical it is about being in the club, or elsewhere, teaching THEORY.

To finish, as I have said elsewhere, which you failed to read, it is stating the obvious to say 'you can teach RYA stuff without being an instructor. It is also naive of you to think, though you do not say, that we would somehow get RYA course books/work , teach it and pass it on to an instructor to do for the exam. Obviously he/she will charge and that would be a significant amount to youngsters who are unable to afford it. Whereas if we were teaching it everything EXCEPT RYA books and exam fee, if you had read the post you would have understood that, would be free.

If you intend to do any thing remotely like intellectual battle please ensure you are suitably ordnanced or as my old granny used to say RTFM.
 
The post is saying the wife, or anybody with the same qualifications (RYA) could teach theory. She wants to teach THEORY. She does not wish to do practical.

It is easy to say 'you must pay' There are many who wish to learn but are unable to pay but can scrape together enough to pay for the exams and books, as said in my post. This means they are included in life and not excluded where they can become disaffected etc. Wife wishes to help some achive what they would like to.

Your reference not seeing the relevance of GCE to yachting. It is not the GCE it is the capability that shows, ditto other qualifications. As you talk about a cosmologist, it is likely they would 'walk' RYA theory, Is it not?

Thanks for the reply but slick answers don't get the point.
 
Thanks for the reply but it is good for youngsters/anybody to be holding a certificate saying they did it in something they chose to do in life.
 
Cloth Ears

My, my what a crass little chappie you are.

We do not need to read the obvious because it is, well .. obvious.

We see, as does everybody else now, that you felt it worth using 200 + words stating it.

You are clearly a revolting person, please desist.
 
I think it admirable your wife wants to help the kids and should be applauded.
Equally I do not think RYA Accrediited instructors are particualrly well paid when it comes to theory courses, or there would not be a shortage.
I think you may underestimate how much books, materials and entering the exam costs, do not think you will get much change from £80, but could be more. I believe the cost of the instructor is reasonable in relation to this.
Maybe the answer is to teach the best parts of the course to the kids, so that at a later time they will be better prepared to do the course proper. In the mean time your wife would have fostered a keen interest in sailing ?
 
Another Cloth Ears

Hmm you're another tetchy little devil aren't you.

What is in my post was fact. This was to enable those who are able to pass comments, give advice, suggestions etc.

Moronic, disaffected behaviour and yob culture despite its prevalence on these forums, was not something we took into account.

Thank you for joining the happy band of chaps that wish to state the obvious and get their name in print. - Now you can go, where ever you go and say, 'I told 'em'. Well you did. Well done. What's next joined up writing.
 
We are not asking for freeby qualifications. The fact we will not charge is not part of the deal it is merely so that , you, the reader, can understand the situation.

The post is for discussion Please do read the latest PBO ref similar.

Yes it is life that there are charges but some cannot afford it for what ever reason and this means they are excluded so.......
 
"It appears you need YM THEORY to teach Day Skipper shorebased, which seems fair enough."

Yes, wife has this but RYA say you nedd practical as well.

What has powerboat to do with it? RYA not coherent in its approach.

Yes it does mount up though that is not the point - wife does not wish to take practical. Read PBO last issue ref this.
 
You most definitely are missing the whole point.

Yes we know the requirements for the ICC, which is also and incoherent approach by the RYA don't you think?
 
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