Running rigging specs - Bavaria 30 Cruiser

[catlotion]

I'm in the process of buying a Bavaria 30 Cruiser and the running rigging has had it. Does anyone know where I can find out the rope specifications to replace please?

 

[Just_sayin']

From the boat you're buying?

 

[Norman_E]

Is this the right manual? http://bavariayacht.org/downloads/manual/Bavaria 30 Cruiser 2006.pdf I have not read it but my Jeanneau manual lists rope types and lengths. If yours does not then you have to measure existing ropes. A good estimation for halyards is to double the mast height, and add the distance from mast foot to the coachroof winch plus at least 3 more metres. If you have three halyards plus a topping lift just buy a reel of rope long enough to make them all. When I made new halyards I made them well over length so that I could cut off a bit if the top of the halyard where it sits on the masthead sheave gets damaged, and get a second lease of life out of them.

 

[duncan99210]

Replace like for like. Most Bavaria running rigging for a 30 will be 12mm, perhaps 14mm for genoa sheets and halyards, although I use 12mm for my spinnaker halyard on my 38. If you’ve got the standard Selene slab reefing fitted, the use 10mm lines to reduce the friction. I use polyester braid on braid, usually sourced off eBay.
You could also sign up for the Bavaria forum here Bavaria Yacht Info - Index . It’s free and a really good source of Bavaria specific help and advice.

 

[Bobc]

Replace like for like. Most Bavaria running rigging for a 30 will be 12mm, perhaps 14mm for genoa sheets and halyards, although I use 12mm for my spinnaker halyard on my 38. If you’ve got the standard Selene slab reefing fitted, the use 10mm lines to reduce the friction. I use polyester braid on braid, usually sourced off eBay.
You could also sign up for the Bavaria forum here Bavaria Yacht Info - Index . It’s free and a really good source of Bavaria specific help and advice.

What he said.

I've just re-roped my boat and have some spare lengths of 12mm if you're interested.

 

[catlotion]

Brilliant - thanks for the responses everyone! Not in the manual unfortunately so I'll measure the lengths on the boat. Good tip on the forum too - well worth it by the looks of it.

might take you up on that offer Bobc

 

[scottie]

Is this the right manual? http://bavariayacht.org/downloads/manual/Bavaria 30 Cruiser 2006.pdf I have not read it but my Jeanneau manual lists rope types and lengths. If yours does not then you have to measure existing ropes. A good estimation for halyards is to double the mast height, and add the distance from mast foot to the coachroof winch plus at least 3 more metres. If you have three halyards plus a topping lift just buy a reel of rope long enough to make them all. When I made new halyards I made them well over length so that I could cut off a bit if the top of the halyard where it sits on the masthead sheave gets damaged, and get a second lease of life out of them.

Using same reel makes economic sense but haveing different colours does have it advantages especially for newcomers

 

[Norman_E]

My choice for halyards is Marlowbraid which has a three strand core inside a braided cover. It has a slightly better breaking strain than most braid on braid polyester, but importantly it does not stretch as much, which makes it good halyard choice without the expense of dyneema. MARLOWBRAID | CRUISER/RACER ROPE

Although Marlow say its easy to splice its actually very different from splicing braid on braid rope, but in any case I never splice halyards because the splice can easily get damaged or jammed in the masthead sheave, instead I attach the shackle with the halyard knot described and illustrated in the Selden Rigging Instructions

 

[jwilson]

On a 35 ft Jeanneau the manual specifies 10mm for everything except the 8mm furler line and 12mm genoa sheets. On a 30 ft Bavaria 12mm halyards seems OTT. I prefer 14mm for genoa sheets, but 12mm is OK.

 

[Baddox]

You're in luck, I have the info on a post-it stuck to a book next to me.

Main furling continuous line 12mm
Jib halyard 12mm
Jib sheet 14mm
Jib furling line 8mm
Main outhaul 12mm
Main sheet 12mm
Main halyard 12mm
Spinnaker halyard 12mm
Kicker 12mm
Dock line 16mm
All braid on braid except for the dock line which is 3-strand polyester.

 

[catlotion]

Great, thanks!

 

[peter gibbs]

I'm in the process of buying a Bavaria 30 Cruiser and the running rigging has had it. Does anyone know where I can find out the rope specifications to replace please?

You don't say if the halyards were wire spliced to line. Should keep to wire if so - the sheaves at the truck will be set up for it.
Otherwise, colleagues have shared the correct gauge rope. 16mm for mooring is a bit heavy - 14mm 3 strand nylon is best and least cost.
Otherwise it's a case of what feels easiest in the hand to grip for hauling - 14mm is good for most heavy duty purposes. Lighter than this gets tougher on the hands when loaded.

PWG

 

[[70521]]

Measure what you currently have and ask yourself is this the right lenght for me. Look at the diameter and consider changing.

Over the last three summers I've changed most of my running rigging as a previous owner liked lines that were just the right lenght and in my view too thick. I've moved from 12mm to 10mm.

Talk to suppliers and listen to what they tell you, I'm lucky Jimmy Green is just down the road in Beer they are brilliant and the Dolphin Hotel serves amazing crab sandwiches while they make up what you want.

P.S. I have a 10.1 meter (33 feet in old money) boat

 

[Bobc]

I agree with Sandy about rope sizes, so many boats have ropes far bigger than they need. The breaking strain of 12mm braid on braid is 4300Kg, which is about the weight of an average 30fter.

When I re-roped my 49, I went down from 14mm to 12mm on all but the genoa halyard, and it has made handling easier with no noticeable loss of grunt.

 

[Tradewinds]

My Nicholson 39 is ketch rigged so mainsail size will be similar'ish to a modern 35' sloop. C&N Handbook has the main, foresail & Spini halyards down as 10mm (Terylene!).

Many moons ago I went up to 12mm but when I replace will go down to the originally specified 10mm. Plenty good enough IMO esp in braid on braid