Rugged?, cheap, low power, long battery laptop?

ShinyShoe

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For 5 years I've been using a Chromebook in the house. It's been an impressive little box of tricks. Last month it started telling me it was out of software updates and then bang this month the screen has died. I can see the screen via HDMI so it still works.

I've been impressed with its existence. Stats cool, no noise, runs 8hrs plus without mains power. Usual frustrations when you want a windows only application but otherwise it's been good. It cost £200 new. A similar model is available £150. It makes no sense to try and get the screen repaired (I opened it to check for the obvious loose ribbon).

So - what do I replace it with?

At home I have a Linux setup that can do most stuff in the office and currently a work Windows laptop. The Chromebook was more for sofa surfing... But I've always thought when I start some serious adventures (like a round Britain) I might appreciate a similar beast given its low power etc. (Of course given the life of electronics and a current lack of round Britain boat that might be 3 laptops down the line!)

Chromebook can't run OpenCPN but I'd probably RasPi it and then VNC into the pi.

I do a bit of dinghy sailing, and a bit of dinghy race officer type stuff. I've found lack of sailwave on it frustrating! I believe some folks have just in the last couple of months found a way to run sailwave.

So- thoughts please on:

- low cost (I'm Scottish!)
- moving harddrive free (I think that's the most likely point of disaster)
- reasonably rugged (I don't think we will get to waterproof!) - but something that doesn't need white gloves to handle it
- long battery life
- WiFi (no need for 4G - would hotspot phone)
- I do like a flip screen... But I know that will be pricey! Hey if it existed in price range a 'write on' screen
- ideally with a 12v or USB power option to save eating amps inverting to convert back

I've used tablets... They are OK. But sometimes a keyboard & mouse is nice!

Open to discussing OS.
 
I use a Dell Chromebook on board (and for work). Twelve hour battery life, flip screen, 64GB SSD. It is currently £300 from Amazon (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-Chromebook-3000-11-6-Notebook/dp/B07HZD3Q1G) but got mine when they had it on a deal at £200. It's very solidly build, and I was able to buy a 12V power supply for it for £30 or so.

You can replace ChromeOS with Linux if you want, but I have the Debian subsystem installed, which gives me a slightly limited full distro. No sound (yet) and some apps have odd limitations - LibreOffice will only save in HTML, for example. ChromeOS will now install Android apps, but has no location services which I think rules out OpenCPN. I am told that the Debian subsystem has no access to the USB ports, so the Linux version is out.
 
Thanks jumble.

£200 for a flip would be fab... Do I have the patience to wait for a sale!!?

Bizarre that libre can only save html!!

I don't think I'd be using OpenCPN raw on it, although if android version worked I have an old Bluetooth GPS someplace...

Lack of access to usb is a bit of pain... A mouse is sometimes handy! Can you run wine on the debain subsystem?
 
netbook... long battery life...2019...

You can have a netbook from 2019.
You can have a netbook with a long battery life.
You can have a device with a long battery life from 2019

But you can't have all three.

Jumbleduck, any reason why you haven't gone for something like Peppermint or Sparky?
 
Theres nothing to stop you using a mouse with an android tablet.Ive done this where the sensitive screen has been smashed but the system is unaffected.Using an OTG cable plus a Belkin travel hub you can use a wireless mouse and I daresay a travel keyboard.(yes just done so with a full size keyboard + mouse on Samsung Tab A 10.1)
Open CPN and Marine Nav both run on it.
 
Thanks jumble.

£200 for a flip would be fab... Do I have the patience to wait for a sale!!?

If I lost mine I would buy a replacement at £300 like a shot.

Lack of access to usb is a bit of pain... A mouse is sometimes handy! Can you run wine on the debain subsystem?

Good question. Haven't tried.

Jumbleduck, any reason why you haven't gone for something like Peppermint or Sparky?

The Debian system is a ChromeOS feature - you just tick a box in advanced settings and, a gigabyte or so later, it's running and nicely integrated. If I was going to run Linux instead of ChromeOS I would probably use Xubuntu, as that's what I have on ... pauses to count ... three desktops and three laptops in regular use, and I am a creature of habit.
 
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