Rowers on the Thames

I row on the Tideway (between Putney and Richmond) which can be a very busy in summer with rowers, sailors and motor boats. I must admit to being sometimes very grumpy with some motor boats, but also, I have to say, I have pleaded very sweetly with some motor boats to slow down, and it rarely works..possibly because I can't be heard over the noise of the engines, in which case I do reserve the right to swear when I nearly get drowned.

I recognise that rowers must come across as an arrogant lot, and we may act like we own the river, but that may be a result of the fact that for a large proportion of the year, the rowers are the only people on it. When you've frozen your way through the cold, wind and rain in February, you really look forward to sculling along on a pleasant summer's evening, and often have it ruined by being swamped by wash from a large ocean going vessel. It would be nice if we could all enjoy the river together, without being a danger to each other and upsetting each other. IMHO, the main problem seems to be that we have a speed limit and not a wake limit on our inland waterways. An American rower posted to the rowing site that in the USA a wake limit is the norm. This seems to me to be sensible. On the Tideway, a set speed limit seems silly when the impact of any given boat is multiplied by wind against tide, high-tide and previous wash. So the wash created by a MoBo at 4 knots at low tide on a still day might be no problem for me to scull through, but at high tide it can turn what was flat water into something that resembles the Atlantic.

I actually find that I yell at other rowing coaches much more than MoBos, on the grounds that they are going much quicker to keep up with their eights. They don't mind me swearing at them as they know me, and will fish me out of the drink if they tip me in, and they know what danger they are putting me in. What I find scarey though is that the wash that must look teeny to you guys atop of your flash vehicle, is enormous to me, and you probably don't realise just how scarey it can be. Recently I was sculling at top tide near Hammersmith, it was wind against tide, but I was competant to deal with the conditions, until I encountered some boats coming the other way. The first was a tourist barge, they go pretty slowly and are generally quite considerate to rowers, but they can set up pretty nasty standing waves at high tide sometimes, but I can usually deal with that too. My problem came when this tourist barge was followed by a big Mobo...well it seemed big to me anyway. Despite the condition of the water, and my pleading (I did plead, and not swear) the boat continued at its previous pace and sent a huge 4 foot wave careering towards me....a tsunami to rowing boats. I turned my bows into the wave and just hoped. The wave broke over my head and swamped by boat. Luckily my boat has good buoyancy and stayed afloat, but that is where it started to get really scarey, because then the water became really dangerous. I was in the middle as I had been travelling with the stream (there is a special dispensation on the Tideway to allow us to work the slacks), but just above Hammersmith bridge there are piers and I was quite close to a moored barge which I was being swept towards. The waves kept sucking my blades (oars) under the water and it took all my strength and skill to stay afloat. The incident had been witnessed by two men on the pier who kept talking to me to keep my spirits up for the 10 minutes that I battled to stay afloat and keep from being swept under the barge. As soon as the water had flattened enough for me to row to safety on the far bank I turned towards it, but I had been trapped in tumultuous water unable to move for all that time. After 14 years of rowing, this incident was the one that has scared me most of all, and the boat that put me in that position was not even speeding. I really could have been killed, not because I did anything wrong, but because the wake from two boats compounded on top of the weather and tide to turn flat water into a death trap in a matter of seconds.

So, I admit that we rowers do shout and swear, but names will never hurt anyone, whereas Mobos do have it within their power to kill rowers, even if we are all exactly where we should be, and you are all confining yourself to 4 knots. And even when we aren't in actual danger of drowing, I'd bet you'd swear if someone tipped a bucket of freezing water over your head with no warning, it's pretty hard not to. The rowed-rage that occurs sometimes is the result usually of having a training piece ruined. If you are rowing hard, you've got loads of adrenelin and testosterone pumping around your body, so rowers vent their spleens pretty easily if disturbed when training. Once we've calmed down we are generally quite nice people. We would also say 'thanks' if we had realised that you had slowed down for us, but we are concentrating so hard on what we are doing that we really only notice the wake, rather than the absence of one. It doesn't mean that we don't appreciate it. Rowing is actually a lot harder than it looks, and you do feel very vulnerable. This country is actually pretty damn good at rowing, even though rowing is the only Olympic sport that shares its main training ground with a potentially lethal predator. To us, it's a bit like if you asked runners to train on a grand prix track -well maybe not that bad, but you get the analogy.

Anyway, you should all try rowing at least once, you'll probably like it. I like drinking G&Ts on Mobos!

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thanks for your contribution. the US does have significantly more zoning than we do, as well as more (a lot) than we do to share around. Add this to the seasonal congestion and it is difficult to fit everyone in - zoning is always a compromise under those conditions - to keep everyone happy no-one really is! Poole Harbour works pretty well but you will find a fair number of comments by the dissatisfied on here too.
Having pottered about in a canvas canoe on the Thames, then a K4, I can understand your perspective but would have to point out that at many times of the weather and tide the tidal Thames probably isn't basically a safe place for an open skull or equivelent whilst at others it's as quiet as the village pond!

Enjoy your sport
 
well as a sculler on the st ives strech of river i dont have quite as much wake but moter boats are slightly worse because of our narrow river it happens to be harder to stick to the correct side of the river and in my experance most moter boat users fail to warn us that they are there even if we are on a colision course which is pretty stupid and nearly resulted in the totaling of my scull a few months back. nicely leads onto a point a moter boat is like a car with no brakes (ok it dosnt have weels) so why isnt there a compulsary 'driving test' anyone who can shead any light on that
 
Hi Sculler 90.
You may find your 1st post subject to some ranting as you have mentioned the topic of certification and have also launched your thread career at a time when many spurious "new" forumites have appeared.
For all we know you may be one.
No boats have brakes, sculls included, so have you thought of a Rowing Proficiency Scheme and registration and insurance and vessel licencing etc., etc.?
 
just a point the call water is not genraly one we rowers use it would be probably better to just yell 'take a look' since that covers everything (even at the end of a 2k row that will turn my head)
oh and our oars are brakes infact the can stop a boat within two lengths safely or faster
i dont doubt that the post is contraversal but i am open to oppions and since all we get on our river is muppets who probably dont know which side of the river is which i rased the point i did not mean to cause offence to anyone
 
There's no driving test because in general, there's no need. There are very few accidents and there's no evidence to support the fact that adding a layer of regulation/testing etc. is going prevent those few accidents. Particularly if other water users aren't keeping an adequate all-round lookout...

Rick
 
Hi Sculler Would this "driving test" involve sitting in the driving seat the wrong way round and just guessing where you are going???
 
nice one, but not quite, diffrence, the boat is very sensitve (which is why they dont like staying upright with people in them) so you can feel where you are going and on streches of some rivers (home course mostly) you can steer by just the feel of the boat. in others you need to know where the river is(funny way of putting it but im a rower) and look around regualy. that or steer by the bit you have just gone past (some better than others) although i do not say it is easy (i spent a year learning to just about miss the bank, it took three to get to the pretty good steering i have at the moment)
it is also possable to do that in a cruser (well if the engine dosnt rattle, anyone know any such cruser? i do know it would be a very unpopular boat amongst rowers)
just dont, please
and it is mostly because the only things on our river that can steer are the 'sarden cans' and we only meet them on sharp corners (and as a result neraly ram them hence early training they often like to lie in
 
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