"Round the Britain Isles", a definition sought

Round Britian

I think that for ayone who regards the definition of the trip as important MUST include all off lying islands including the Channel Islands, Scillies, Rockall, Sule Skerry Muckle Flugga etc.
The rest of us can just go cruising.
 
sailing around britain

I think its one of those things you do for yourself - so the route is irrelevant

I am currently part way round - and I am making no promises about how long it wil take me - or what route I will take

all I am doing is keeping going - one river at a time

at my current rate of progress this will be a five year project - maybe more - might not even finish

But I am having a great time

dylan

http://www.youtube.com/user/dylanwinter1
 
Well done Dylan !!

I totally agree with you and it seems as though you are having a great time.

I wish I hadn't found your website!

I think it is brilliant (as befits a professional) and I know I will be spending too much time looking at it.

Keep it up.
 
Dyflin said:
This old chestnut... :rolleyes:

The British Isles is not an officially recognised term in any legal or inter-governmental sense. It is without any official status.

It is a geographical term used by some, but not all. Even The Times and the BBC have dropped it.

But that doesn't stop people knowing where you're talking about ;)
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That is generally true, but not always, as some of the confusions which regularly crop up on these "circumnavigation" threads show.

I, like most others here, use the term "British Isles" as a conveniently short, purely geographic, label for the archipeligo which lies off the north west European mainland. It has been used, in one form or another, for many centuries, long predates the political shifts of the past 90 years, and is arguably unaffected by them. I can, nevertheless, readily understand in light of that history the RoI's dislike of the word "British". Has anyone suggested a better collective term acceptable to all? ("Irish Isles" is hardly an improvement! :))

Other parts of the world seem to have fewer difficulties, e.g. Scandinavia defines a geographic area containing various political entities, none of which has a name the same as, or similar to, the overall geographical term.
 
Surely the reason for a cruise is just an excuse to aim for. Having set out twice with a vague aim of "going round Britain", each long cruise was a delight, with the stops and anchorages visited most enjoyable. One I did go round completely in my definitions, and the other I got as far as N Wales and then came back anti clockwise to re-visit some newmade friends and also explore the really small places on the West coast of Wales.
 
dylanwinter said:
I think its one of those things you do for yourself - so the route is irrelevant

I am currently part way round - and I am making no promises about how long it wil take me - or what route I will take

all I am doing is keeping going - one river at a time

at my current rate of progress this will be a five year project - maybe more - might not even finish

But I am having a great time

dylan

http://www.youtube.com/user/dylanwinter1
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I've watched all of your videos to date Dylan and really enjoyed them, though they took me over my download limit for last month. But I'm sure Sheppey is part of the British Isles by any definition. I'm afraid you'll have to start again and do it properly.
 
Sheppey

Okay - I will do it all again as soon as I have finished this one

if we both live long enough that is

actually I don't care what other people think is , or isn't a circumnavigation of the british Isles

If I get frightened between the Alde and the North Sea then I will duck through the Caledonian Canal - better men in bigger boats have used the canal

although it would be a shame to miss the Orkneys

Dylan http://www.youtube.com/user/dylanwinter1
 
Dyflin said:
This old chestnut... :rolleyes:

The British Isles is not an officially recognised term in any legal or inter-governmental sense. It is without any official status.

It is a geographical term used by some, but not all. Even The Times and the BBC have dropped it.

But that doesn't stop people knowing where you're talking about ;)
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Not really a Chestnut over here Dyflin - I doubt anyone cares .

But you will undoubtedly be right about the BBC and maybe the Times - the former even tries to adopt foreign pronunciations into English as well as altering traditional English names for places. But they are inconsistent - they call Peking Beijing but Paris is still Paris not Paree and Germany is still Germany not Deutchland. So my guess is that they do what the FO want and in view of Irish sentitivities , they have no doubt bent with the wind.
 
Seeing as you joined no more than a month ago, I'm not sure you are qualified to comment on the age of the chestnuts around here :p
 
Bosun Higgs said:
Not really a Chestnut over here Dyflin - I doubt anyone cares .

But you will undoubtedly be right about the BBC and maybe the Times - the former even tries to adopt foreign pronunciations into English as well as altering traditional English names for places. But they are inconsistent - they call Peking Beijing but Paris is still Paris not Paree and Germany is still Germany not Deutchland. So my guess is that they do what the FO want and in view of Irish sentitivities , they have no doubt bent with the wind.
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You seem to care!
To twist an old saying that comes to mind."I think sir you do protest two much"
 
Does recent joining date (like mine) mean that someone has not been reading these fora for a long time?

On the original point, 'The British Isles' does not imply any political meaning in the same way that America does not in 'The Americas' or India does in 'The West Indies'.

Doesn't the name 'Great Britain' originate from 'Grande Bretagne'? And doesn't that mean 'Big Brittany'? I always thought it did.
 
dylanwinter said:
Okay - I will do it all again as soon as I have finished this one

if we both live long enough that is

actually I don't care what other people think is , or isn't a circumnavigation of the british Isles

If I get frightened between the Alde and the North Sea then I will duck through the Caledonian Canal - better men in bigger boats have used the canal

although it would be a shame to miss the Orkneys

Dylan http://www.youtube.com/user/dylanwinter1
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That would be a shame, there's a warm Hebridean welcome waiting for you up here!
 
Mmmmm Roasted Chestnuts!!!

We could call them the 'Celtic Isles' but then Glasgow Rangers fans may be a tad unhappy about it!

Anyway.. What about a figure of eight sail arould the two main islands of this archapelago? Ireland to Port & Great Britain to Starboard (or vice versa). Has anyone done it? This would result in traversing the Irish Sea twice. Thus being able to visit both east coust of Ireland and/or Isle of Man and/or North West Wales and/or north west England and/or south west Scotland.

Am i just being mad thinking it would be good? Well if you are going to go round you might as well go all the way round!!
 
figure of eight

Abestea said:
Anyway.. What about a figure of eight sail arould the two main islands of this archapelago? Ireland to Port & Great Britain to Starboard (or vice versa). Has anyone done it?
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What about figure of eighting all the islands? OK maybe just a few of the main ones (like Sheppey ;-) This could be like a fractal - infinitely long.
 
and no sneaking up that canal in Scotland. You should go north of John O'Groats.

There are actually 2 shortcut canals up here...
 
DaveS said:
Other parts of the world seem to have fewer difficulties, e.g. Scandinavia defines a geographic area containing various political entities, none of which has a name the same as, or similar to, the overall geographical term.
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I can think of a few where there is dispute over naming an area after one country, e.g. English Channel / La Manche. While 'Persian Gulf' is common parlance in most of the world, the Saudis refer to it as the 'Arabian Gulf'.

Interesting though that both sides use the term 'Irish Sea'. Do the Irish use the term 'St George's channel'?
 
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