Round Britain day 87

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Said goodbye to Douglas this morning, not sure if I would return due to the toilet facilities. I would certainly use Peel again and then use the bus to visit Douglas. Another strange thing I found was the local company who sold diesel went bust, but you can still get diesel - provided you have a card issued in Peel. How daft is that.

It was a bit windy as I left at 7 and once through the bridge I heard on the VHF a cruise line captain say to the port authorities he had been having 30 to 35 knot gusts, so had cancelled visiting Douglas. With this knowledge I set up double reefs on both sails.

The wind started as a close reach, then I realised I had set the course 20 degrees to low. I was now 2 miles downwind of the real course, so I tried hardening up slightly knowing the tide was going to push me to windward. On the way over I saw 4 ferries and a small tanker, otherwise the sea was empty of boats. The seals I made to fit around where the halyards pass through the spray rail are working well, but one very heavy green sea decided to find a new way to get water under the sprayhood. The bottom of the sprayhood is held down using a plastic track and now two of the holding screws have pulled out and allowing water to flow under the track. Another repar job needing to be done. The further south I travelled the stronger the tide was, but the wrong way despite now being close hauled.

Then an old favourite decided to do a replay, one of the new 5mm bolts holding the autopilot arm sheered. Back to hand steering the last 10 miles. Eventually I was about 3 miles to lee of my waypoint and down tide to boot, then the wind increased from force 7 to force 8. I decided to head very close to the cliffs by Great Orme Head to get out of the wind and waves. As I closed towards the cliff I furled the genoa away and motor sailed closer to the wind. Once right inshore I headed into wind and dropped the mainsail. Now under engine alone, it was slow progress getting round Great Orme Head due to the strong wind, the waves and the tide. It must have taken about an hour and a half to get to the entrance to the channel into Conwy. Instead of making 3 to 4 knots, I suddenly was making 6½ to 7, so reduced the engine revs. It was now a case of locating the channel buoys. The wind, once I was virtually running, was whislting in the rigging. There had been a yacht entering the channel some time before I got there and then a large Moody was motoring hard into wind to leave, they were only yachts I saw all day. It was too windy to prepare the fenders until after I was within the shoreline. Once I had prepared 4 fenders each side, I called up Conwy Marina, as I had a berth booked, to find out which side to rig the mooring lines. I had to wait as he needed to go back to the office to check which berth I had been allocated. Then after fitting the lines I entered the marina and the guy had made his way to the berth to assist me in due to the strong wind which had been showing force 8 on their wind electronics. Finally tied up at 18.00. So 11 hours to cover 52 miles and some faffing around at each end.

Once moored I took off my oil skins to find the seat of my jeans was soaking wet so changed all my clothes. The oil skins definitely need replacing. After going to the office to register, collect the door codes, wifi code, electricity card, and buy some laundry tokens, I returned to load the electric card and fill the water tank. Left the hose just over the transom and turned the hose on. It was under high pressure and proceeded to loop round and spray the cockpit. Turned it off and put the hose in the filler. Whilst filling, I needed to put a couple more turns on the furling drum, as it was so tightly furled, by unreaving the sheets and winding them round the foresty and reeving them again. Before I finished, the tank was full. Whilst refitting the cap I managed to spray my feet, so I had wet shoes and socks, but at least I had washed most of the accumulated salt off the decks. Now it was time to get some dinner, but I felt lazy, so used some Uncle Ben's precooked rice with a can of chicken in a creamy sauce. 1 sausepan and 1 plate, a dishwashers dream.

All the boat photos I have adjusted to make the horizon level as they were so out of level.

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Photos never look as rough as it was

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Spray had got everywhere and frequently drenched the top of the spayhood

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The sun came out to play for a short while

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Approaching Great Orme Head

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Just passing Great Orme Head

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For anyone wanting to read the reports from the start, this is the link to first one.
Round Britian day 1
 

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Just wondering about the autohelm bracket attached to the rudder coming loose.

Mine seem to loosen over time. I have thought about attaching two vertical brackets close to the pin to strengthen the whole fitting.
 

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Just wondering about the autohelm bracket attached to the rudder coming loose.

Mine seem to loosen over time. I have thought about attaching two vertical brackets close to the pin to strengthen the whole fitting.
Me too, seems as if there would be a huge amount of leverage with such a long drop to the autohelm attachment so close to the stock ?
 

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The Autohelm bracket is not unlike mine, and never had any problems, but the Sadler 25 is very light on the helm.
See photo attached. The measurement from Autohelm mount to bracket is 560mm at mid way extension.
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The drop from the underneath of the tiller to the autohelm pin is very large and exerts huge bending forces on the bolt at the top of the bracket. The 5mm bolt if it is threaded at the joint is a lot less the 5mm in diameter. As an emergency fix suggest you use a Unbrako allen head HT steel 5 mm dia. bolt, You can get these at any motor vehicle spares outlet. Put the bolt head under the top bracket and the nut on the top of the tiller. This will put a 5 full mm dia at the point of bending. Stainless is very weak in a bending situation, as it work hardens, Long term I would be looking at redesigning the bracket to take the load over the whole section of the tiller and bolt it through the tiller horizontally. The other solution is to use bracket for the cockpit mount end that bolts to the vertical edge of the cockpit, this puts the loads in a better position, The cockpit side can be reinforced, Autohelm used to do suitable bracket. This way you can reduce the vertical distance from the autohelm ram to the underside of the tiller.

Great trip you are having enjoy the reading and the photos,
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Just wondering about the autohelm bracket attached to the rudder coming loose.

Mine seem to loosen over time. I have thought about attaching two vertical brackets close to the pin to strengthen the whole fitting.
My bracket is fixed with two 6mm bolts that are 75mm long. I am now looking for some bolts that are 8mm for increased strength. The control unit and ram are more than adequate for the conditions I am sailing in (I know on the rough end of the wind scale). The bolts shear at the point where the metal bracket and wood tiller meet. The loading on the tiller when hand steering is not that much, but the bracket is about a third the way along the tiller, so must be hugely magnified, hence the bolt sheering from multiple side loading.

I doubt if your bracket is loosening, it may be the wood becoming compressed or the bolt is starting the sheer. Worth undoing to check both possibilities.
 

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The drop from the underneath of the tiller to the autohelm pin is very large and exerts huge bending forces on the bolt at the top of the bracket. The 5mm bolt if it is threaded at the joint is a lot less the 5mm in diameter. As an emergency fix suggest you use a Unbrako allen head HT steel 5 mm dia. bolt, You can get these at any motor vehicle spares outlet. Put the bolt head under the top bracket and the nut on the top of the tiller. This will put a 5 full mm dia at the point of bending. Stainless is very weak in a bending situation, as it work hardens, Long term I would be looking at redesigning the bracket to take the load over the whole section of the tiller and bolt it through the tiller horizontally. The other solution is to use bracket for the cockpit mount end that bolts to the vertical edge of the cockpit, this puts the loads in a better position, The cockpit side can be reinforced, Autohelm used to do suitable bracket. This way you can reduce the vertical distance from the autohelm ram to the underside of the tiller.

Great trip you are having enjoy the reading and the photos,
David MH
I have been thinking of getting a special bracket made in stainless steel that fixes to the sides of the tiller with large plates rather than relying on the sheering capacity of a bolt. The forward bolt always takes most of the loading.
 

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Canned chicken in creamy sauce, I still can’t even look at it without feeling sick, we were on our way to the Azores, two of us on board and I was feeling a bit below par, it was the ‘mates’ turn to cook and he opened a tin of chicken in creamy sauce, which we had been happy with a couple of days earlier, but just looking at it sent me to leeward to throw up, that was over ten years ago, still feel ill at the thought of it.
A fascinating series, will keep a look out for you as you cross mid section of Cardigan bay.
 

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Now under engine alone, it was slow progress getting round Great Orme Head due to the strong wind, the waves and the tide. It must have taken about an hour and a half to get to the entrance to the channel into Conwy. Instead of making 3 to 4 knots, I suddenly was making 6½ to 7, so reduced the engine revs. It was now a case of locating the channel buoys. The wind, once I was virtually running, was whislting in the rigging.
Your confidence in dealing with heavy weather and entering new ports leaves me feeling overcautious and in awe. Your account is beginning to read like one of the old sailing classics, and every bit as gripping.
I was reminded of this post by Supertramp when reading your report on entering Conwy. "It was now a case of locating the channel buoys". In those conditions, and knowing Conwy of old, in my opinion that may be the understatement of the whole voyage, unless you had prior experience of Conwy?
 

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Today started well, I managed to get one load of laundry completed before my daughter and family arrived. My grandson James, who is only 2¼ years old, had been super excited on the drive over and as we walked along the pontoon he was loving looking at all the boats, plus a heron and some seagulls. Then he started talking about grandad's boat. When he realised he could go on grandad's boat he was wanting to see below. He was a very happy chappy once he had walked round the deck.

We then went to the local pub for lunch. Then it was into the car to visit Conwy Castle. He loves castles and kept us busy by walking at the double, even spiral staircases did not cause a problem. My daughter complained her legs were hurting from all the spiral staircases, so we decided to leave. A quick look round the gift shop with only one small item purchased, but whilst by the till James legged it back towards the castle. To see both parents running to catch him was quite amusing. The castle and extensive town walls were all built in just 4 years, quite a feat.

Then it was time for a quick walk round town. The only place we stopped at was an ice cream shop, where James had a softy ice cream, where he put it all I will never know. For those who watch Drew Pritchard with his antique business might be disappointed to know his shop is no longer there. The door was always locked to stop the grockles from wandering through, it could only be visited by appointment only. Not quite what was portrayed on the tv. Back to the marina to be dropped off as they had an hour and a half journey to get home. James should sleep well tonight.

For me there were still things to do. I have repaired the sprayhood track and replaced the bolt on the autopilot arm on the tiller. So Concerto is back in normal sailing condition. Finally I flew the drone to take some video and photos of the marina. I decided to try flying it out of the cockpit, rather than off the pomtoon. When I tried to fly over the entrance channel to Conwy I started getting a weak signal, there should have been no problem with the distance, but I thought I might lose it. Thankfully the signal was intermittent and I managed to fly a little closer to base and the signal was then fine. Trying landing on a space about a foot square in the cockpit was not too difficult and should prepare me for trying taking off and landing from the boat whilst moving.

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Yours truly with paleface (my daughter) and James - 3 generations

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Conwy Castle

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These local boat pontoons are not connected to the land

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View from the castle of Castle Street with the town wall in the distance.

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Ice cream and little boys seem to go together

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The white plastic track has 2 screws pulled out of the wood by a green sea hitting the sprayhood

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Conwy Marina

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The entrance to the marina is between the two posts as that is where the flap is
 

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I was reminded of this post by Supertramp when reading your report on entering Conwy. "It was now a case of locating the channel buoys". In those conditions, and knowing Conwy of old, in my opinion that may be the understatement of the whole voyage, unless you had prior experience of Conwy?
I still find the Mark 1 eyeball to be good and allied with the chart plotter, made the entry not too difficult in the conditions, for a first timer like me.
 

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Conwy is a great small town. If you fancy a decent pint (not Robinsons at the Marina) then go to the Albion inside the city walls. The fish and chips just off the town quay are great too.

It was blowing hard Friday and Saturday - we are on the Menai Straits at Y Felinheli but unfortunately not on the water as showing daughter around Bangor Uni.
 

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Today has been a very lazy day. The forecast a few days ago was terrible including heavy rain for most of the day and thunder and lightening, so I had already decided to stay today. How wrong the forecast could be as it has been sunny most of the day except for a couple of hours with some rain.

Spent the day doing more laundry and some work on Concerto, plus visiting the chandlery for some 8mm bolts for the autopilot bracket and new ensign (to be fitted shortly). Chatted to other boat owners and also made a dramatic rescue. A lady on a motorboat on the row of boats across from the transom shouted for some help . Her umbrella had blown off their bathing platform and landed upside down with some water inside. I grabbed my boathook and went onto the finger to retrieve it. The boathook went unused as it floated to the end of the finger and I could just grab it. Never had to rescue an umbrella before. Anyone else done a similar crazy rescue.

The only photo I took today was of a heron on a pontoon. It had been less than 4ft from me as I walked along the main pontoon but moved about 12ft away before I could take the photo. Close by someone I spoke to showed me some photos of an otter they saw today on a inflatable in the marina.

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Entry to Conwy used to be a simple affair directed by a single sector light at Morfa Conwy point, albeit constraining entry to HW ±1.5hrs. Then buoyage was laid enabling 2m draft to enter from HW-3.5hrs. Now the bewildering display of lights from numerous buoys adds no navigational benefit but serves only to confuse. At least the 30 second 'heart in mouth' period of C8 , crossing the 2 cable reach over The Scabs with tide on the beam, has now been reduced.
 
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