ex-Gladys
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The other name for the Thames is the London River, colloquially...
River Ore/Butley
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LittleSister
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Quite likely it is what one local person called it long ago when asked by the surveyor doing that bit of the first Ordnance Survey map. (Alternatively, it may have been taken off a preceding enclosure or estate map that could have had equally arbitrary names.) Once it's written down somewhere 'authoritative', it gets forever re-circulated in that form and becomes the norm.
Whether that local person called it that because it was the way it was generally referred to locally, or not, we'll probably never know.
Note how many rivers are called 'River Avon', when avon means river. You can just imagine some local humouring the visiting surveyor when he asks 'What's this river called?', by smiling to himself and answering 'River' in the local dialect. Probably had a laugh about it with his mates later.
Whether that local person called it that because it was the way it was generally referred to locally, or not, we'll probably never know.
Note how many rivers are called 'River Avon', when avon means river. You can just imagine some local humouring the visiting surveyor when he asks 'What's this river called?', by smiling to himself and answering 'River' in the local dialect. Probably had a laugh about it with his mates later.
Seashoreman
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It is interesting stuff, I remember reading examples of land/places etc that were originally guessed at when the original map writers were at it. Altered language and dialects.
I imagine this river was originally called The Butley River as I direction off the Ore as it is tiny with little land references except Butley village.
I imagine this river was originally called The Butley River as I direction off the Ore as it is tiny with little land references except Butley village.
Colvic Watson
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It's a local river for local people. If you're a local you know to call it Butley Creek, tells us who the outsiders are see
Plum
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It's a local river for local people. If you're a local you know to call it Butley Creek, tells us who the outsiders are see
Guilty as charged! I am not a local so I hope you don't mind me visiting ☺
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Colvic Watson
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Never in all life. In Suffolk you're a local very quickly, to be a local in Norfolk means having close relations there, very close relations.
