"Rip off" Britain again

bedouin said:
Current GiffGaff rates are 25p/min for calls, 10p/text and 10p/MB. That is pretty much double what they charged 18months ago. A cheap deal such as Asda Mobile is 4p/min, 4p/text, 4p/MB and the cheapest of all is 1p/min, 1p/Text, 1p/MB but has a minimum spend.
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I don't think many people these days use PAYG pricing.
 
might say , that , if one can afford to go into Europe travelling one can surely afford the roaming charges ! surely its 'small beer' considering the 'Travelling Charges' which are sold under cost ?

AS for Giff Raff with their phone a friend when in troubles , cripes what a shower I fond them to be ; been with TESCO on 02 for many years now getting a 'good enough' deal from them on PAyG ; few strings etc
 
Capt Popeye said:
might say , that , if one can afford to go into Europe travelling one can surely afford the roaming charges ! surely its 'small beer' considering the 'Travelling Charges' which are sold under cost ?
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Not really the point is it ?
Many pensioners live in europe and travel in europe on a small budget which has got even tighter after brexit.
The fact is UK punters are being charged far more than the equivalent European person for the same service albeit in reverse.
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This, 'Oh, but it's just how it used to be' and 'Oh, but it's small change/nothing is free/the telecoms companies are only trying to make money' baloney really grates on me! We had a good deal (excuse the pun) with respect to international roaming and now, increasingly, we don't. How can anyone argue that that's sensible or indeed a good outcome per se for the consumer?

(And BTW, the cost may be insignificant if all you do is call home once a week, but if you have to keep in touch with the office/customers, the costs can very easily mount).
 
syvictoria said:
This, 'Oh, but it's just how it used to be' and 'Oh, but it's small change/nothing is free/the telecoms companies are only trying to make money' baloney really grates on me! We had a good deal (excuse the pun) with respect to international roaming and now, increasingly, we don't. How can anyone argue that that's sensible or indeed a good outcome per se for the consumer?

(And BTW, the cost may be insignificant if all you do is call home once a week, but if you have to keep in touch with the office/customers, the costs can very easily mount).
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Oh comon ; if its a business tel call its Tax Deductable for sure as a Business Expense ; just add it to your Costs Account ; why should us who do not have a Business account pay for your Holiday on Business ? fairs fair {:-)#
 
Capt Popeye said:
Oh comon ; if its a business tel call its Tax Deductable for sure as a Business Expense ; just add it to your Costs Account ; why should us who do not have a Business account pay for your Holiday on Business ? fairs fair {:)#
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It's not necessary as simple as that if you're self employed.
 
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Looks like one can only discuss fluffy bunnies here. Not much of a forum then. BTW, when I tried, two or three times, to follow the link in the "nobody told me" notice- it didn't work. It may be because I use a chromebook.
 
Povremeni pomorac said:
Looks like one can only discuss fluffy bunnies here. Not much of a forum then. BTW, when I tried, two or three times, to follow the link in the "nobody told me" notice- it didn't work. It may be because I use a chromebook.
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It didn't work on my subversive Huawei laptop either but I assume it bans any reference, no matter how slight or oblique to anything deemed controversial, political or religious.
 
capnsensible said:
We didn't really have a problem with Movistar. But moved to Lobster with a really good deal. ?

My snag was not looking at phone properly before texting whilst sailing in the Gib Straits and the phone getting 'captured' by a Moroccan net and ending up with a major credit drain. My fault though.
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I nearly got caught there too, I warned my mate a few minths ago as he was chatting to me from the Straits!
 
savageseadog said:
Errrrrrrrrrrr,................the international network is therefore carrying data from the EU to Britain and from Britain to the EU it therefore does not "cancel out". The infrastructure is not free and bandwidth costs money. In any case there is competition so people are free to Change network.
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The vast majority of web traffic will be local and unlikely to leave the provider data centre. YouTube, Spotify etc will all have local cache. Random websites could be anywhere on the planet so the idea that traffic is routed via the UK just because you live there is absurd.
 
All the arguments about which way the data flows, who pays for it at corporate level etc etc are irrelevant. It's the same this year as it was last year.
The fact is that last year we didn't pay and the companies made their profits ok. This year they have put the roaming rates back on and are making even more profits.
Nothing else has changed.
Only the level of their greed! And of course the law is no longer protecting us.
They've seen an opportunity to increase profits and grabbed it with both hands.
I'll be leaving Giff Gaff very soon once my credit has been used, and moving to a new provider but would half expect most providers to re-introduce the charges once they see the profit potential.
 
ean_p said:
You are making an assumption here as you don't know what has or hasn't changed for the individual companies involved. that assumption is coloured by your bias !
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I am not biased. I am only stating the fact that I am now being charged more. How is that biased. What about if you tell me what has changed to make the companies costs higher and increase my charges. Apart from brexit, the law and therefore the ability for them to be greedier, that is.
 
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