Brilliant, that's all good stuff and to be honest I quite like fairly wide ranging opinions to be expressed - I'm learning and will make up my own mind. No idea where I will be based in the longer term, part of my funding is from selling up in London but the East Coast is quite appealing.
You are an outstanding bunch. As soon as we're liberated from lockdown I will take some of you up on the kind offers.
Dunno about 30 years but my second boat, a Tucker brown built 35 year old boat had to have the decks & entire interior stripped out. So the re varnishing to the new timber was actually small beer in the end.. I cannot imagine that I would have to do the same to my current boat at 35 years.
The answer is of course that when your Hanse was borne someone had worked out that sailing fairly flat was far more comfortable whereas in the days of yore when say a Centaur took form the greater angle that it healed at the more the bilge keel dug in. I well recall our test sail out of Portsmouth with full sail up and bouncing around outside the harbour at an alarming angle but all part of the sales pitch then I suspect. We have the same problem with our cushions but the tip is to have larger ones which cannot escape so easily when the table leaf is raised .Oh, you mean like this
(To be fair, I was only moving the boat in the river but it was blowing old boots so I decided to go for a sail
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Get that entirely. Skill set sailing is limited by experience. My skill set working on boats extends to maintaining a mirror dinghy.
Looking at the original lacquer finish on many Westerlys, I suspect it was sprayed as the finish is so perfect. The lacquer maker Morrells say it is best sprayed and that is how it is used in the furniture manufacturers, but it can be brushed for an acceptable finish. I am taking all the interior wood back to bare woodand brushing the lacquer. Three coats are being applied and after the first and second coats it is being lightly sanded to remove any nibs. The lacquer is exactly the same as Westerly used over 40 years ago, so this material has not beenn improved over this time.
Presumably to do that ( spraying) the joinery must have been made out of the boat & fitted as separate manufactured structures. Like modern AWBs . Not built in situ
I can understand that. it took me 3.5 years working every weekend to rebuild my second boat, But I did that, not because I wanted to sail her. I wanted to have a go at building a boat. I suspect that at his time of life, the Op wants to go sailing. I certainly would not want to do it again.; mainly because I have sold my joinery business so no longer have the facility. principally, because I do not have many years of sailing left. It all seems great at 55, but suddenly 75 creeps up & fettling boats becomes far less important.
The woodwork was made in their own workshop to a very high standard and the fit is better than I normally get and I work to 1mm tolerance. All the plywood panels were fitted after the deck was fitted with everything fitting through the main hatch. The full and half bulkheads are the support for fixing the the plywood panels. Modern boats have preassembled box units, a bit like kitchen units, dropped into slots in the hull stiffening matrix and glued in place. This is so much faster to do than building in place, not to mention the use of computer design and CNC machinery which was never available 40 years ago.
Take your pick with these lacquers. Morrells | Interior Wood Finishes Then check out the other products they sell. They are a massive supplier of wood finishes and are supposed to be trade only, but I find their local trade counter have no qualms in supplying in trade quantities.
Yes, I have binned the project boat idea - it was never a runner. There are some interesting older boats which would need a bit of work in the frame. Scope creep is an issue, the reason for the initial question was to gather ideas, not only boats but criteria.
Thanks, that’s useful.
On thing I forgot in the last post.
If you decide to look at newer boats it's probably wise to keep to the smaller sizes. An immaculate Dehler 29 was sold on the same pontoon as me last Autumn, asking 25k. It was a fairly late build and I think the owner just wanted rid of a boat he could not sail; a great bargain in an unfashionable size range,
As you look at larger boats, for the money, they tend to be older and more used. You can end up with an item that is neither one thing or the other, under 20 years old yet needing first attention to big ticket items like rigging , propulsion, electronics and maybe sails.
Has anyone mentioned the Sadler 29, it would be worth looking at one.
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