replaceing boat carpets

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All the carpets in Seralia are overcarpets in moulded recesses, so easily removed. I have brought them back for cleaning but frnakly they are past it so i might as well replace the saloon, bridge and companionway sections.

What is the best thing to do for carpets? My local carpet shop has a carpet which is a similar tone to the one coming out (or at least the clean bits of it) and they can do the edge banding. Do I need a 'marine' carpet?

Id also like to replace the underlay to try and dampen the wngine noise in the saloon - i guess this does need to be a marine specific rubber underlay to combat moisture etc. Any ideas where to go?
 
Whitelighter said:
Do I need a 'marine' carpet?
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Nope. During the original build of my boat I specced carpet from a non marine manufacturer, just regular-to-high end domestic carpet should be fine. Mine is wool with hessian backing and I've had no problem on those two scores either

Ditto underlay, I'd think. Obviously you want heavy dense rubbery underlay if you want to combat noise.
 
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Yep, the stuff im looking at is good quality with a hessian backing - though not wool . With kids I just cant risk it.
The local (very good) carpet shop said they couldnt get a think sound insulating underlay though.

Any thoughts?
 
Lots of sound and vibration paths through a boat so difficult to assess.

Might be best if space permits to check the soundproofing in the engine room and try to address the noise issue closer to source, improving it there if you can, then go for additional layers as described above carpet/underlay both good of course, different materials/thicknesses create an impedance mismatch improving attenuation throughout different octave band frequencies but at the end of the day, its really difficult to achieve good sound attenuation unless you can get into every nook and cranny.
 
There is a grade of underlay that is marine spec fire retardant, I can't remember the name of it but it's from one of the main underlay manufacturers and is just one of their grades, Will see if I can find anything about it.
 
We got fed up with carpet and have recently removed it in the saloon and replaced with cushion floor, I have the rear cockpit to do.

Several options occurred, replacing with a stain resisting kitchen carpet (I'd think fire resisting in such an area, and using recycled play floor as underlay.

if idea it appeals best check fire ratings first. I know the rubber floor works to damp sound as i placed some under our washing machine which is on a hard utility room floor at home.

Alan
 
Whitelighter said:
Yep, the stuff im looking at is good quality with a hessian backing - though not wool . With kids I just cant risk it.
The local (very good) carpet shop said they couldnt get a think sound insulating underlay though.
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San Lorenzo laid a very nice medium pile nylon carpet on our boat with a thick underlay which must be a good 15-20mm thick. A nylon carpet certainly seems easier to keep clean than a woollen one and having a carpet with a reasonably deep pile hides the crumbs too
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that woollen carpets are a no no in a marine environment as they absorb moisture. Any man made fiber is the way to go.
 
No idea - but I would have thought a good quality wool based carpet would be good, its the preferred coat for sheep and doesn't lanolin come from it which is used in the marine environment albeit probably processed out for carpet?????

Perhaps one of our boat carpet experts will be along soon to enlighten us all :cool:
 
J, this is the underlay that they put under the carpet on my Ferretti. Note that it is flame retardent

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Whitelighter said:
I guess the underlay would need to be a smaller size than the carpet to allow the carpet to clip down over it.
Interesting to see its the foam type
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Actually on my boat the carpet is not clipped down although I know it is on older Ferrettis. The reason the underlay was cut a bit small was because the previous owner of my boat had some white wood flooring put down which had cappings on the edges. If the underlay had been laid over the cappings, the carpet would have stood proud at the edges

As I say I'm pretty sure the carpet on my boat is nylon which seems to be quite easy to keep looking clean although we haven't tested yet with a major spillage. Certainly the combination of that underlay with carpet on top feels very nice underfoot and overall we're very happy with it
 
sunquest said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that woollen carpets are a no no in a marine environment as they absorb moisture. Any man made fiber is the way to go.
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I specced wool carpets and have no problem with moisture. (I also have wool sweaters and suits and they don't randomly absorb moisture either!)

My underlay is same thickness as shown in Deleted User's picture but is made of thick felt not foam. All much of a muchness I think. Main noise issue to consider is that you need the sound absorbing layer or heavy rubbery stuff under the saloon carpet (or under the saloon wood floor) because that's where the engines are
 
jfm said:
I specced wool carpets and have no problem with moisture. (I also have wool sweaters and suits and they don't randomly absorb moisture either!)

My underlay is same thickness as shown in Deleted User's picture but is made of thick felt not foam. All much of a muchness I think. Main noise issue to consider is that you need the sound absorbing layer or heavy rubbery stuff under the saloon carpet (or under the saloon wood floor) because that's where the engines are
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Quite. Mine is flat (carpets and underlay) so any noise protection is almost gone. The Detroits aren't the quietest engines either
 
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