Red Ensign on Backstay

Tranona said:
Why do you always have to take an absolutist view. Why can't you see things in their context?
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But, my dear fellow, I am the one putting things in context. Annual subscriptions of almost five hundred pounds are a rather more pertinent indicator of current club members' social standing than the founding documents from over a century and a half ago.

The comment was comparative - the poster using the term "upper crust" as a way of placing clubs in a hierarchy and I am using "working men" in the same way.
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You have previously said that most members of your club can easily find £100,000. That does not suggest a working men's club.
 
Daydream believer said:
No good. On the lower part of the backstay ( which is adjustable ) it would flap on my head & above the split it would catch on the boom during a gybe.

Note I have an aeries & unlike others, it misses the vane whilst it is on the flagstaff, quite easily



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You could set it up as I and IanL have, on a block higher up, and dip it before gybeing :)
 
lpdsn said:
That doesn't prove they're posh. Could just be drug dealers from the local sink estate.
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Good point, well made. But would they have sailing boats? There are a couple of big motorboats in a marina I know which belong to people with no visible means of support. Every month or so they go away for just long enough to make a trip to a quiet port in the South of Ireland and back.
 
Is it 'the done thing' to dip when being overtaken or only when travelling in opposite directions?

If the speed difference was not great, the rigmarole could take a long time. :D
 
As far as I remember it's whenever meeting a warship, RN or foreign, whichever way they're going.

I don't dip ensigns very often as I reckon they're busy enough already but have had better responses from other countries' ships than our own; looking forward to trying HMS Queen Elizabeth though :)
 
JumbleDuck said:
Good point, well made. But would they have sailing boats? There are a couple of big motorboats in a marina I know which belong to people with no visible means of support. Every month or so they go away for just long enough to make a trip to a quiet port in the South of Ireland and back.
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Puppy smuggling is apparently a big thing. A couple of alleged smugglers were drowned off the Rinns of Galloway last year so the story goes.
 
Traditionally Red Ensigns were worn on the leech of the sail on gaffers, they tended to be straight up on the leech. but with Bermudan sails it puts it at an angle that is unsightly and some might see this as poor etiquette. As I was brought up in my sailing aboard sail training vessels etiquette was everything, but its better being there than not I suppose.
 
Seajet said:
As far as I remember it's whenever meeting a warship, RN or foreign, whichever way they're going.

I don't dip ensigns very often as I reckon they're busy enough already but have had better responses from other countries' ships than our own; looking forward to trying HMS Queen Elizabeth though :)
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I dip mine, in days gone by it was always a bit of fun to watch a sailor run out dip it and then go back. (then again I was in the RAF) nowadays, they do it from a button on the bridge. They don't respond as much now. I think this is a pity as sometimes tradition is a good thing and we are a proud seafaring nation!!
 
LittleSister said:
Do submarines fly an ensign?
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