Red Diesel. Is it worth it?

[Guest]

Re: I\'ve heard a rumour...

Unqualified in Govt ----- so not much chance in tax on petrol !

Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !

 

[Guest]

I Have !

Diesel ..... Red OK

Having had an outboard previously I paid a price and BOY did I grumble that tax was heavier !!!!!

Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !

 

[nicho]

Re: where do you get it that cheap???

Last year, Raybar supplied me with 300 litres at 22.8p litre - guess thats UncleGordon for you!!

 

[Peppermint]

Brighton

Yes that would about suit him.

 

[DepSol]

Whats RED diesel?? ;-)

Dom

I am boating again ;-)

 

[Twister_Ken]

Imported from China. nm

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[Col]

Like white diesel, only, er, um, red !


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[brianrunyard]

Wrong!!
I'm about to re-engine to a diesel, it'll be slower so less wash.
I'll probably keep the 100hp petrol, if the price advantage disappears I'll put the petrol back in, Lighter, Faster, hence more wash!!

Brian
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brunyard

 

[Guest]

Whats Red ?????

0.2% Su standard Gasoil, tax exempt. Dyed with Red dye and Yellow Marker for Customs and Excise determination.

Its cheap and runs tractors, factories, and of course BOATS !

Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !

 

[DepSol]

Re: Whats Red ?????

I was being sarcy as we dont have red diesel in the CI.

Dom

I am boating again ;-)

 

[jimmie]

I've got a Volvo V70 diesel ... there's not much on the road that'll see me off!

 

[Guest]

I know .... I was being smart ! nm

Ha Ha

Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !

 

[Guest]

Volvo\'s ....... mmmm

Except the T5R AWD XC Special Factory Edition on 290HP that I test drove the other day ! What an animal !! I WANTED it .... but sensibility prevailed and I took the S70 2.5 ...... pity !!!

Nigel ...
Bilge Keelers get up further ! I only came - cos they said there was FREE Guinness !

 

[bigmart]

Re: Volvo\'s ....... mmmm

Very interesting Nigel.

I assume this means that you have plenty of cash to pay top whack for my trailer.

Regards

Martin

 

[Whiskey2]

Re: Volvo\'s ....... mmmm

You must be REALLY old !

 

[brianrunyard]

Who's talking about roads?
I'm taking out a 100hp petrol and putting a 50hp diesel in, hence my statement that "it will be slower".

Brian
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brunyard

 

[brianrunyard]

You state "....who cares if we have to pay full price; the engine is an auxilliary, we're supposed to use our sails mainly."
Do I take it you're suggesting that sail boats should pay full price and us motor boaters shouldn't????


Brian
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brunyard

 

[Celena]

I think what I suggested earlier that it's preposterous for us to expect to have the benefit of cheap deisel for pleasure purposes when many of us have to pay full price in order to travel to work. By us I mean motor-boaters as well as yachties of course!

 

[Trevethan]

It might be preposterous.. but I have to question the sanity of anyone who appears to want to any pay more tax than the all but crippling levels already levied on the British public.

Tell you what, to make yourself feel better, each time you fill up, donate a similar amount to the RNLI or othjer worthy cause.

In this way you will be shelling out hand over fist, but at least the "tax" will be going to worthy organisation that is unlikely to fritter it away.

The government is offers most taxpayers very poor value for money. We should be looking for tax and duty cuts that will force the government to improve efficiency.

Take healthcare - substandard, bloated and bureacratic here, but costs me around £100 a month.

In Alberta, Canada the healthcare system isfunded through direct contributions. If working you pay medical insurance of around £20-£30 a month. If not working the province pays your contribution.

There is no shortage of drs, never hear of year long waiting lists etc etc etc.

I would be more happier to pay the level of tax I pay, if I got value for money, but we don't and proffering the greedy buggers more in the form of added duty on red diesel just gives them a few more million to squander.#


rant over.

 

[Observer]

Common sense please

The logic of your suggestion is that because we are overtaxed on Product A (road fuel) it is reasonable for us to be overtaxed to a much greater extent on Product B (marine/agricultural fuel).

There is no equivalence between the road network and the sea. Roads represent a highly complex civil engineering infrastructure which is massively expensive to build, maintain, control, police etc. Surely you can see a difference!

It is bad enough, in the case of road fuel duty, that the total tax take far exceeds the cost of provision and maintenance of the facility which it is (at least nominally) intended to support. To suggest that we should, in effect, pay the same tax to use the sea is, to use your word, preposterous.

We do pay VAT on marine diesel and I would not object to paying it at the same rate as is charged on other goods. The only reason (probably) we don't (also why successive governments haven't applied a road fuel duty type tax to marine diesel), is that the costs of collection would make it uneconomic.

And long may that common sense view prevail.