Recommendations for window frame refurb?

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One of the jobs on my list this Winter is refurbishing the fixed cabin windows on my Westerly Berwick. Haven't popped one out yet, but I suspect there will be corrosion in the frames, and that they will require refurbishing or perhaps replacement. Does anyone have any recommendations for firms? Ideally in the East Coast as that is where the boat is, but I guess they can be posted elsewhere.
 
I used C & J International Windows for a set of new window frames and toughened glass about 10 years ago. Service and prices were very good.
Unlike some outfits, they can manufacture the metal frames as well as refurbishing. IIRC, they had acquired Westerly formers, but can't be certain of that.
They're in the West Midlands, so not your preferred area.
 
Hadlow Marine http://hadlowmarine.com/Pages/Introduction.html

They refurbished 13 of my windows, flanged, U type, split aluminium frames. Some of my frames were corroded through. They came back with window bonded into the frame with an adhesive style sealant, new screws and fishplates, bedding tape applied. All I had to do was reattach to the hull. The adhesive sealant was very neat and chamfered so that water would run off the window frame at a good heel.

I was very pleased and 4 years on the windows are still performing excellently. No associating except as a customer.
 
DennisF said:
One of the jobs on my list this Winter is refurbishing the fixed cabin windows on my Westerly Berwick. Haven't popped one out yet, but I suspect there will be corrosion in the frames, and that they will require refurbishing or perhaps replacement. Does anyone have any recommendations for firms? Ideally in the East Coast as that is where the boat is, but I guess they can be posted elsewhere.
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It s worth looking critically at what needs to be done. We took the windows out of a Berwick and refitted them a few years ago. the window units themselves were OK, They just needed resealing into the cabin sides.


The screws/ interscrews that secure them are an odd size (M3.5 x10mm) The only place we could find them was Trafalgar Yacht Services in Fareham They cost an arm and a leg but maybe whoever you get to refurb the units can supply them.
 
earlybird said:
I used C & J International Windows for a set of new window frames and toughened glass about 10 years ago. Service and prices were very good.
Unlike some outfits, they can manufacture the metal frames as well as refurbishing. IIRC, they had acquired Westerly formers, but can't be certain of that.
They're in the West Midlands, so not your preferred area.
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I used C & J around 15 years ago for refurbishing our Berwick windows. Excellent job and quick turnaround. IIRC they used to make windows for Westerly. http://www.candjinternationalwindows.co.uk/
 
Another approving nod for C&J. They did my Jouster windows, beautifully, and more recently refurbished the windows from my Hunter 490. Reasonable costs, quick turnaround, helpful service. And yes, I understand that "C" was Westerly's window maker.
 
VicS said:
The screws/ interscrews that secure them are an odd size (M3.5 x10mm) The only place we could find them was Trafalgar Yacht Services in Fareham They cost an arm and a leg but maybe whoever you get to refurb the units can supply them.
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IIRC-and I might be wrong-3.5mm diameter is possibly a B.A. size.

B.A. used a metric thread form with funny diameters.

My engineering thread tables are not to hand so I cant confirm.

B.A. sizes were often used in mechanical/electrical units-CAV alternators, Starter Motors, heavy switch gear etc.

Will be hard to find, especially in S/S.

Drilling the holes to 4mm and running a 4mm tap down the threads would convert to 4mm and a scource of inexpensive screws would become available.
 
rotrax said:
B.A. used a metric thread form with funny diameters.
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BA follows a charmingly simple set of mathematical rules. Pitch = 0.9BA numbermm, major diameter = 0.6 x pitch and AF measurement = 1.75 x major diameter.

M3.5 is 0.6mm pitch so it is closest, but not terribly close, to 4BA, which is 3.6mm OD x 0.6mm pitch
 
JumbleDuck said:
BA follows a charmingly simple set of mathematical rules. Pitch = 0.9BA numbermm, major diameter = 0.6 x pitch and AF measurement = 1.75 x major diameter.

M3.5 is 0.6mm pitch so it is closest, but not terribly close, to 4BA, which is 3.6mm OD x 0.6mm pitch
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Thanks for that-I knew they were a bit different, but could not remember exactly how.

To GrahameM376- they will still tap out to 4mm though, as long as they dont revolve while tapping.
 
Just in case it helps anyone to know, C&J Windows are sadly retiring, so are not taking on any further work unfortunately. I'll try some of the other recommendations......
 
I have 4 windows that leak, ali frames, toughened glass.

Quote from the first people to reply is er, um, extraordinary!

How hard is it to dismantle, clean, re-assemble? Assume I need a tube of black goo and a load of masking tape and pervert gloves?

The side opening slider windows will need some rubber channel stuff.

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Photographer I am not!!
 
burgundyben said:
I have 4 windows that leak, ali frames, toughened glass.

Quote from the first people to reply is er, um, extraordinary!

How hard is it to dismantle, clean, re-assemble? Assume I need a tube of black goo and a load of masking tape and pervert gloves?
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Awful, I'd rather have my wisdom teeth pulled sans pain relief than do windows again, although you have more side deck to manoeuvre on. Lots of goo, it will get everywhere; if I was doing windows again I'd buy a box of tyvek suits to avoid getting covered in the stuff.
 
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