Re-rigging costs

[Deleted member 36384]

A Rival 41C, Masthead, complete re-rig: forestay (own fulring system re fitted), backstay, cap shorouds, lower forward shrouds, lower aft shrouds, aft intermediate shrouds, inner forestay, all bottle screws; £3500 in 2008.

I dont believe that rigging needs to be changed out every 10 years on cruising boats provided that it is inspected and maintained in a tune condition; visual inspection is not difficult to do.

 

[DaveCass]

Rigging

With all due respects to all that have responded.
On the first boat (Jeanneau SO), the furler became stiff, I tried several ways of freeing it up to no avail, a rigger then checked it and found that the inner (forestay) was unravelling.
This necessitated a new forestay at least.
The rigger then advised that as the rigging was 11 years old, the insurer would require survey/new rigging- this I carried out and got last season out of it.
The boat was then sold and I bought a 1968 Van DeStat, which was rigged in 2002/3- I thought (hoped) that this would be OK for a couple of seasons.
I noted that it was more substatnial rigging than the Jeanneau rigging (both boats are 29ft).
The insurer insisted on a more up to date survey than 2002- there fore -
On lifting the boat last month, the yard spotted a couple of iffy bits at the swaged ends and suggested that the rigger inspect- as the crane was near.
Unfortunatley I am advised that rigging is required again-
This is now out of my hands and I have no choice, other than new rigging

 

[Norman_E]

Ok, so you have to re-rig, just don't accept that you have to replace the furler if it is still serviceable. If you think that the furler may not outlast the new rig, just have a Staloc or Norseman swageless terminal at the bottom of the forestay, so that the furler can be changed at a later date, and the only rig cost will be for a new cone. A new furler will cost a substantial percentage of your re-rig cost, so save it if you can.

 

[nimbusgb]

A Rival 41C, Masthead, complete re-rig: forestay (own fulring system re fitted), backstay, cap shorouds, lower forward shrouds, lower aft shrouds, aft intermediate shrouds, inner forestay, all bottle screws; £3500 in 2008.

I dont believe that rigging needs to be changed out every 10 years on cruising boats provided that it is inspected and maintained in a tune condition; visual inspection is not difficult to do.

£3500 with your own furler refitted nearly 4 years ago! They saw you coming from a LONG way off!

 

[Deleted member 36384]

£3500 with your own furler refitted nearly 4 years ago! They saw you coming from a LONG way off!

So what, I dont like your insinuation.

Mast and Rigging Services (Scotland) Ltd.
Largs Yacht Haven,
Largs,
Ayrshire,
KA30 8Ez

Supply and Fit Standing Rigging £2768, Vat £415.20, Total £3183.20. Sorry not 4 years ago, March 2009.

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Depends on what you are replacing.... if it includes bottle screws for example. (you'd be a bit mad not to do them at the same time IMHO, and most riggers won't contemplate it)

And on an Oceanis 400, they may struggle to undo the forestay at the foot with the below deck furler (well recognised problem on the marque caused by furling gear and poor access), which may mean cutting the deck in front of the anchor locker and then making good afterwards.

I was quoted £2900 for an Oceanis 400 earlier this year, including new bottle screws all round. This is an identical rig to the 411. I could have probably negotiated it down a bit, but subsequently sold the boat, so didn't get it done.

 

[Solwaycruiser]

my quotation

Hi all, thanks for all the replies. I now have a quote for just under £2700 which includes vat and replacing a damaged foil section to the forestay. It includes new bronze bodies rigging screws but does not include the removal and refitting of the chain plates (required so that the new bottlescrew ends can be fitted) as that will be done by ourselves. I realise from the replies that it could probably be done for less by sending the rigging away to a non boaty company. Still to decide whether to do just some or go for the lot though. Interestingly we are in Scotland where it may well be that the competition is not there to push the cost down to some of the suggested figures above. Thanks again.

 

[Norman_E]

I would have the whole lot done in one go and get a re-rig certificate to show your insurers if they ask. At that price insist on top quality fittings (e.g. Sta-loc) and that the wire is UK or Northern European branded, and not Chinese or Eastern European.

 

[wklein]

Furler Dependant

Ok, so you have to re-rig, just don't accept that you have to replace the furler if it is still serviceable. If you think that the furler may not outlast the new rig, just have a Staloc or Norseman swageless terminal at the bottom of the forestay, so that the furler can be changed at a later date, and the only rig cost will be for a new cone. A new furler will cost a substantial percentage of your re-rig cost, so save it if you can.

This is not necessarily true, dependent on furler brand, his will almost definitely be furlex or facnor furlex has a built in stalok swageless at the bottom which is an absolute pig to take out on older model if done correctly. if it is a facnor this will be totally possible but i would recommend swaging eye on bottom and swageless on top.

You have an oceanis 411 which is unfortunately very poorly rigged (materials not design, they don't use kos wire like rest of boatbuilding industry and has seen 411's rigging looking 20 years old after six)with stemball cups at the bottom which means the rig screws cannot safely be changed with the rig standing. Therefore i would suggest a thorough rig check and changing rigging while you have the opportunity, As a price guide for non-forestay rigging £120 / mm (average wire size) for materials.

 

[nimbusgb]

As a price guide for non-forestay rigging £120 / mm (average wire size) for materials.

Blimey £120 for a piece about || 1/2 that length!

 

[wklein]

Blimey £120 for a piece about || 1/2 that length!

About £1200 for 10mm rigging £600 for 5mm (ish)