Raggies why do they leave their halyards banging

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned but the term for the noise is 'frapping halliards'.

Personally, though, I think I'm in a minority of two with Ellesar - I love the noise! The sound of a marina or, better still, a dinghy park in a storm... lovely! Now living inland, it's one of the things I look forward to on trips to the coast. Rather than keeping me up, it helps me drift off. Each to his own I suppose but, nevertheless, when I used to have a rag & stick I always tied my lines off the mast, as I knew just what a racket it was to everyone else. It takes no time at all and is a courtesy to one's fellow boaters. Now in a mobo, I can enjoy the noise around me with a clear conscience!
 
kcrane said:
When we had a saily boat we used to use an elastic with hooks between the halyard and one of the shrouds to keep it from banging.
It is an awful noise and easily fixed but never sure about climbing on someone else's boat uninvited.
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As a raggie, I think it is perfectly in order to sort out a problem like banging halyards on another boat. Sometimes its due to a bit of thoughtlessness, sometimes a line might have slipped but there is no reason to inflict that noise on others.
 
A new neighbouring boat in a marina I once used didn't bother frapping their lines. I tend to apply the three strikes rule - first time tie them up for them, second time do the same but with loads of knots and using the ends of their sheets spider web style. Third time a lot of gaffa tape. It worked.

Of course occasional mistakes and loosening of frapping lines needs to be tolerated, but deliberate laziness?
 
Rigger Mortice said:
Not quite. Frapping is what you do to stop the noise. ie. to frap a halyard is to tie it back.

The correct term for an unfrapped halyard is "irritating".
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The "irritating" term made me smile by the way!

Strangely, I picked up the "frapping halliards" term many, many years ago in an article on the very same subject in Practical Boat Owner. Perhaps it's a valid term or maybe they just got it wrong - if so, I wonder if I can claim a refund on my old subscription?!?!
 
My word, Brits do so much complain about noise. Most of the rest of the world is just, so not bothered. My daughter, when younger, used to love the noise of 'Daddy, the boats are talking to each other' brill.

Its just something to get over, like roads, planes, trains, whatever.

Relax.....
 
kashurst said:
I dont mind raggies who blunder about the place safe in the knowledge that they always have right of way
I dont mind raggies who dont look where they are going after all looking around or under the jib is so difficult
I dont mind raggies who yell about your wash when you are doing five knots
But.....
There should be a special place in hell for lazy sailors who leave their main halyard banging against the mast. Whats so difficult about tying it to the end of the boom before you go home?
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how on earth would I find my boat in the dark after leaving the pub mate ?
it's bad enough having to wear hob nail boots with blakeys on to stop slipping on them crappy plastic smelly mo boat things as I try to get me leg over your rails

god some people whine just for the sake of it, have you tried ringing the Samaritans ?

tell em about that rope swinging back an forth and how you cant sleep
 
In replying to post number 10.

Its just the halyards (knife) you need to cut not the stays!:D
 
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Freeloader said:
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned but the term for the noise is 'frapping halliards'.

Personally, though, I think I'm in a minority of two with Ellesar - I love the noise! The sound of a marina or, better still, a dinghy park in a storm... lovely! Now living inland, it's one of the things I look forward to on trips to the coast. Rather than keeping me up, it helps me drift off. Each to his own I suppose but, nevertheless, when I used to have a rag & stick I always tied my lines off the mast, as I knew just what a racket it was to everyone else. It takes no time at all and is a courtesy to one's fellow boaters. Now in a mobo, I can enjoy the noise around me with a clear conscience!
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Now you can add a third person. I love the sound; it reminds me of my place in SoF. I can lie in bed at night and nod off to the dink dink dink dink dink dink....
 
I've got great news for you lovers of paranoid, cyclic noises.
Modern technology brought to us quality recorders and headphones at ridiculously low cost.
Why not make an MP3 recording, put it in your ipod and play it continuosly, at ear bleeding volume, 24/7? :D
 
MapisM said:
I've got great news for you lovers of paranoid, cyclic noises.
Modern technology brought to us quality recorders and headphones at ridiculously low cost.
Why not make an MP3 recording, put it in your ipod and play it continuosly, at ear bleeding volume, 24/7? :D
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or the maritime equivalent the sound of a jet ski !
 
birchwood330 said:
I have always thought it was another adjective starting with F and ending in ING , thats what I have always called them anyway. A stanley knife would quieten them .
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and a lump hammer will do the same to a noisy engine but , but neither act of criminal damage is surely being contemplated .
 
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