davidej
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Have you been in Sixhaven in Amsterdam in mod summer. That takes packing them in to a new level!
Rafting up - Shoes On or Off when crossing other boats - Vote time
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RichardS
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Exactly. Which is why the posters on the other thread are re-thinking their positions. ?
Richard
Jamie Dundee
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A few years ago in Portpatrick during lifeboat week the whole harbour filled with boats from Ireland and further afield. The harbour master, Willie Ramsey, used to walk from one side of the harbour to the other collecting harbour dues (and the odd ‘tot’) without getting his feet wet. It was one hell of a party, don’t know if it’s still the same now.
Sticky Fingers
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Pretty common in the Solent, both in the marinas and otherwise. Discounts, not a chance. I've never had a problem with it, either from damage or other people. But it seems to be drawing out some strong views.
You'll commonly be rafted at
Yarmouth
Bucklers Hard
Bembridge
E Cowes
W Cowes
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Not only would I ask them to remove their shoes, but if the ladies in the group were attractive they should remove their clothes as well, whilst crossing my deck. If they are less pleasing to the eye I would supply cycling capes to avoid any "can't be unseen' scenarios.
ctva
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Never understood this concept of ’no rafting’ that seems to be gaining ground until we went into Kerrera maybe about 10 years ago when we were told there was no space. I replied that we had no problem with rafting to which the ‘new and now long gone owner’ replied, we don’t do rafting, our clientele don’t like it. Needless to say we never went back.
From my earliest memories of Scottish Series in Tarbert when we rafted 10-20 deep, I have always found that friendships have been made this way. Something that is missing today to meet strangers and strike up a friendship. Like when we were storm bound in Kyleakin one July for 11 days next to @Juggler7823 from Wales whom we still exchange Christmas cards.
As to crossing boats, I treat all like my own, simple curtesy.
From my earliest memories of Scottish Series in Tarbert when we rafted 10-20 deep, I have always found that friendships have been made this way. Something that is missing today to meet strangers and strike up a friendship. Like when we were storm bound in Kyleakin one July for 11 days next to @Juggler7823 from Wales whom we still exchange Christmas cards.
As to crossing boats, I treat all like my own, simple curtesy.
Leighb
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Rafting is pretty normal practice on the East Coast, it is good manners to ask permission, but a refusal would be considered churlish! Provided that boats are of similar sizes that is, I did have someone in a 45 ft boat suggest they came alongside our 30 footer, I politely suggested they find someone of their own size. I have to admit that I have never considered taking my shoes off when crossing a neighbours decks, perhaps because we don’t see pristine teak decks around here very much, usually they will have a film of East Coast mud on them.?
cherod
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But apparently to lots of rude buggers it does not matter what anybody else requests , only their on opinions matter !!It's a daft poll because we don't know what the skippers of the inner boats have requested.
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johnalison
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I can't offhand think of any places I have been rafted on the East Coast, except possibly Heybridge Basin. Many Baltic harbours have a number of box berths, with a rafting pontoon for late arrivals, who are almost always charter boats. This is probably about as good a way of using the available space as it could be. My teak deck is moderately pristine and i would prefer that it stayed that way.
cherod
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It was you who first suggested taking your well heeled wifey across others boats !!!
RJJ
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That's a good idea, thanks
Rich T
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Yes, remember those halcyon days well. The annual Bangor to Port Patrick race often resulted in “walk across the harbour “ rafting. The only rule was leave a space for the lifeboat to exit (it now it sits in the outer harbour). Although not the same amount of visitors, rafting is still normal practice and results in great social gatherings. It’s just a case of good manners, with some sensible give and take.
RJJ
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I should also say the cleanliness of the shoes is a bold assumption. If the shoes are indeed clean, by all means keep them on.
To me as the original, fussy, " materialistic", "prissy-knickered" owner, the whole problem is that I don't trust people who have walked to town and back to have clean shoes. I rarely/never see people check their shoes for cleanliness; that leaves me thinking there are simply those who wear clean specific boat shoes, and those that wear dirty non-specific shoes.
It's been suggested that it's down to me to have a doormat. Fair enough, and will people actually use it diligently? I have seen people walk straight over a doormat in a really "can't be arsed with this BS" sort of way, more than I have ever seen people actually using it like they care.
A box of overshoes sounds like a great suggestion and one I will look into.
JumbleDuck
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You'll need two boxes, one on each side, And they will have to be grippy, because giving people the smooth plastic ones swimming pools use is just asking for falls and trouble. And asking people to stop before crossing your boat, put on overshoes, cross over and take them off again will make you look very silly indeed. Which of course might be a price worth paying.
Jamie Dundee
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Good days - ’rock on the rock’ etc. Had a chat with Willie 3 years ago on a visit, he must be well into his 80s now but still bright as a button.
rogerthebodger
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To me its not the shoes its the grip that you pick up when walking on tar, gravel and concrete roads and pathways
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Hand sanitiser must be used.
Praxinoscope
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Tried that, doesn't half make your deck shoes slippery!
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I think it works like this: if demand is high , rather than increase mooring fees the service is 'degraded' by rafting. Rafting is at the discretion of the harbour master, not any boat owner. If rafting does not appeal then there is always the option to leave.
I do think that 30 years ago no one would bat an eyelid at having to raft. For better or worse, there is now a cohort of boat owners who treat their boats like their cars and and are indignant at the prospect of someone touching their property and, on occasion, will deploy dinghies or signs to frustrate other harbour users. I must admit to feeling a deep sense of satisfaction when such misconceptions are corrected, whether gently or otherwise.
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doug748
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".........Rafting is at the discretion of the harbour master, not any boat owner...."
Indeed it is. Anyone who has not been rafted in a marina has probably not travelled very far.
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Indeed it is. Anyone who has not been rafted in a marina has probably not travelled very far.
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