catalina1
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Was There ever a report on the Racing Yacht that crossed the bows of the tanker
at Cowes Week ?
at Cowes Week ?
Racing Yacht at Cowes
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Bodach na mara
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Yes, in 2011 I think. There was a link to a youtube video posted somewhere in the forum.
Found it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPxY0AG38YM
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l'escargot
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ABP alluded to a report last autumn and that it was due to be released but it never seems to have materialised. Nothing was ever recorded on the MAIB website.
prv
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We've all seen the video. Some of us would like to read the official (MAIB etc) report. Did you see anything about a report in 2011, or did you just mean the video and media stories?
Pete
catalina1
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I have searched the MAIB website nothing there. nor at Southampton APB
Tranona
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Think you will find that there is still a dispute about it with possibility of a court case.
Simondjuk
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The MAIB may well have no interest in investigating that incident. There's not much to learn from it, except don't sail under the bows of big ships, which the vast majority of people are already aware is a really bad idea.
jac
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Isn't the learning from that incident that the Racing Yacht had right of way because he was racing and the tanker should have got out of the way. Just need the varvassi wreck to also understand the new rules (and a few rocks, sandbanks, inconvenient land masses) and Cowes Week could be transformed!!!!!!
Simondjuk
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No, no no! You can't just change the rules like that! Nothing, but nothing, has priority over an X dingh... sorry... X boat or ever will. Everyone knows that. Especially X drivers.
Tidewaiter2
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Uricanejack
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I do not have direct knowladge of MAIB. I expect it is simmilar to NTSB or TSB which I do some understanding off.
The MAIB will be investgating and will report. It is a colision involving a comercial vessel.
The process.
The MAIB has prority but may not be only agencu to investigate.
The MAIB does not find blame. The MAIB investigates, Makes findings of Fact or draws logical conclusion if fact cannot be determined.
Makes recomendations bassed on the facts or concusions found. In order to learn from the event and prevent reoccurance.
The reoprt is written by lead investigator with imput from his team of ivestigators plus information which may have been drawn from technical experts.
After the peliminary report is written it is sent to his or her bosses and legal experts for review.
The review will specificaly look for any thing which looks like blame and send it back for ammendment.
The peliminary report after review by MAIB. will then be sent to the interested parties and there lawyers for review.
They will go over it word by word and iff they think it points blame or casts aspertion on thier client they will chalenge the wording and request ammendment. This may happen several times before it is finalised.
The final report will be sent to the interested parties just prior to being made public. Usualy 24hr prior.
The review procces is a confidential procces and it is an offence to reveal.
This one will have lots of interested parties. just guessing a few.
The shipping company.
The Race organiser (RYA?)
The Politage authourity.
The Port.
The Pilot, his union and his lawyers.
The Capt, his union and his Lawyers.
The OOW his union and his lawyers
The Skipper. his lawyer
The helmsman.
The crew.
All the insurance companies. they will also conduct investigations.
On occasion if no serious injury or death. MAIB may investigate but defere report to a company or port internal investigation report if MAIB thinks it adequatly deals with findings and recomendations. unlikly in a collision. but it is possible they may have done so if there were no injuries and the varios parties took sufficient action to prevent reocurance the MAIB decided it did not need to report.
some times this can take a while.
The MAIB will be investgating and will report. It is a colision involving a comercial vessel.
The process.
The MAIB has prority but may not be only agencu to investigate.
The MAIB does not find blame. The MAIB investigates, Makes findings of Fact or draws logical conclusion if fact cannot be determined.
Makes recomendations bassed on the facts or concusions found. In order to learn from the event and prevent reoccurance.
The reoprt is written by lead investigator with imput from his team of ivestigators plus information which may have been drawn from technical experts.
After the peliminary report is written it is sent to his or her bosses and legal experts for review.
The review will specificaly look for any thing which looks like blame and send it back for ammendment.
The peliminary report after review by MAIB. will then be sent to the interested parties and there lawyers for review.
They will go over it word by word and iff they think it points blame or casts aspertion on thier client they will chalenge the wording and request ammendment. This may happen several times before it is finalised.
The final report will be sent to the interested parties just prior to being made public. Usualy 24hr prior.
The review procces is a confidential procces and it is an offence to reveal.
This one will have lots of interested parties. just guessing a few.
The shipping company.
The Race organiser (RYA?)
The Politage authourity.
The Port.
The Pilot, his union and his lawyers.
The Capt, his union and his Lawyers.
The OOW his union and his lawyers
The Skipper. his lawyer
The helmsman.
The crew.
All the insurance companies. they will also conduct investigations.
On occasion if no serious injury or death. MAIB may investigate but defere report to a company or port internal investigation report if MAIB thinks it adequatly deals with findings and recomendations. unlikly in a collision. but it is possible they may have done so if there were no injuries and the varios parties took sufficient action to prevent reocurance the MAIB decided it did not need to report.
some times this can take a while.
Sailfree
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IIRC from previous threads there were some senior Navy people on the yacht so likely to be covered by their Official secrets Act rather than their sheer incompetence come to light!!
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l'escargot
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There is no investigation listed as open on the MAIB website in connection with this incident.
