Racing and Col Regs

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Perhaps if you'd known anything about sailing you'd have realised they would be tacking at the wall and positioned yourself accordingly.

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Savageseadog do you check someones details before posting in a manner which may be considered abusive? I note yours don't reveal information whatsoever. Maybe you did see that I do sail a sailing boat and decided to post as you did anyway.

Personally I take care to ensure that my postings (which occasionally may be a robust reply) don't verge on the abusive as I enjoy this forum and its general courtesy.

It was because we had an understanding of what they MAY do that we did what we did. I should have been clearer and stated that it was not the fact that they tacked but a hoity cry from a crew member of "We are racing you know" that got my goat.

As you correctly say

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There is acres of space in most parts of the Mersey

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Not a lot of use if you cannot get to it because of a sandbank.

A couple of boats are usually fairly easy to stay out the way of, more in a line, close together as they often are when racing is more difficult in a relatively confined space. You have to assume they are going to change course suddenly but you don't know precisely when or where so you can position yourself appropriately. If you are already in a channel when the situation presents there is not a lot you can do without SOME cooperation from sailing vessels e.g. maintaining course and speed and acknowleging the fact that if they suddenly change course or speed when in close proximity the other vessel may not be in a position to change course or speed as quickly to accommodate them.

My original point was about people racing being under the impression that that gave them additional rights. I possibly should have included the woman's comment to clarify that but declined to do so. There was no dispute in my mind regarding the Col Regs, they were sailing we were not, we gave way us much as we could within the constraints imposed by the channel and our draft.
 
Re: Pros in charge?

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Unless you have the figures to prove it, I'm not sure that you are right there. In the last event I sailed, out of a fleet of 20 or so boats there were two pros, the rest were punters like me.

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Then you must work for an organisation that employs a large percentage of sailors - most are hard pushed to find 20 or 30 sailors let alone 20 or 30 skippers /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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There was no dispute in my mind regarding the Col Regs, they were sailing we were not, we gave way us much as we could within the constraints imposed by the channel and our draft.

[/ QUOTE ]Rule 9(d) says: "A vessel shall not cross a narrow channel or fairway if such crossing impedes the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within such channel or fairway. The latter vessel may use the sound signal prescribed in Rule 34(d) if in doubt as to the intention of the crossing vessel." ...Not a word about racing or sailing so maybe they have a duty to keep clear of you anyway?
 
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so maybe they have a duty to keep clear of you anyway?

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That is the way I would have regarded the situation if I was helming the sailing boat and had I maintained course and passed in front of the motor boat then tacked soon after I would like to think I would have taken the responsiblility of ensuring I was not then on a conflicting course again, col regs or no col regs, racing or not.
 
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