Quiet night in Llanbedrog - until two boats started their generators:(

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Why do people do it.....?
Beautiful evening anchored in llanbedrog after the usual plethora of jet skis had gone back to their lairs when a mobo called Nemo fires up his gennie followed by a yacht called Fandango starting his. Generator noise in stereo /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
I can only guess at the reasons you would want to have a generator going for on a night like Saturday (TV?? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif).
Inconsiderate, antisocial, ignorant - or i am being too harsh in my judgement?
Apologies for naming and shaming but I'm kinda hoping that the message might get across!
 
I would name, shame and video them

put them on youtube

You might get some hate mail - but if it makes them think twice before doing it again then so be it

I have a had several nights ruined by twassocks
 
Mobo probably wanted to run the air-con / fridge / freezer / ice maker etc and the raggie maybe needed to recharge the batteries /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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You should have waited until they turned-in for the night and shut off their generators.

Then you should have started up one of those mega -sound systems which are beloved by those Ford Fiesta drivers.

You know, . . . . . . the ones that you can hear the bass notes pounding, about a quarter-of-a-mile before the car drives past your house!

Run that for about an hour after they kill their generators! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Quite right to 'name and shame'. We've had a similar thing on many occasions and always ask them to turn the things off and charge up in the morning.

Most mobo's are ok about it, others are self-centred louts whose replies don't bear repeating here. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I too cannot understand why they want to ruin a lovely, peaceful anchorage in such a way. I mean, what is the point of them going there in the first place? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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You should have waited until they turned-in for the night and shut off their generators.

Then you should have started up one of those mega -sound systems which are beloved by those Ford Fiesta drivers.

You know, . . . . . . the ones that you can hear the bass notes pounding, about a quarter-of-a-mile before the car drives past your house!

Run that for about an hour after they kill their generators! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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And then the 4th boat in the anchorage would have even more to complain about.

Maybe row over and explain to them that instead of spending the evening appreciating the peace as you'd planned, you're going to go with the flow and watch TV with them instead - "no no no, not this channel, pass me that remote."
 
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Inconsiderate, antisocial, ignorant - or i am being too harsh in my judgement?

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Not at all. I don't understand why people go to places and want to take their home with them.

Campsites are full of cars packed to the brim to sustain a family of four for a weekend, and even then they have to dwell in the local pub for feeding.

They'll miss the beauty though, where as us thinking men, pack an entire weekend into a 25l rucksack, and disappear into the hills, returning much more relaxed, as they drive off in a cloud of bickering.

I know it's annoying, but do take pity on those people who can't be entertained by nature. They probably didn't intent to spoil it for everybody else at the anchorage, it's just that they're a bit stupid, simple in thought, they can't help it.
 
Broadly agree - certainly in the evening it is very inconsiderate when people are sitting out in their cockpits. But let's have some balance. The braying that always goes on about generators gets silly- the real reason some complain (and you can see it in these posts) is that people have the sort of equipment that drains power that they deem unnecessary - fridges, freezers etc. I hold up my hand as one of those who prefer the comfort of those appliances and a cold beer and frozen food (so as to keep out of marinas for longer) and I won't bow to anyone telling me having those comforts on my boat is wrong - it is simply a matter of personal choice.

So, the batteries need charging to power up the nights (anchor and domestic) for the night and the logical time to do this, some think, is the evening - I agree this is a really bad time to do it but the fact of it is, as someone who uses the generator most days when at anchor, there is always someone who will mouth off at you whatever the time you run the damn thing. My preference is to run it for 2 hours in the morning (never before 1000 am) and then a top-up of 1.5-2 hours in the mid afternoon (finsihing at no later than 5).

What is the alternative? Move off while you use the generator? Always eschew the peaceful spots? Never use any of the big current equipment?

My point is that we all have to exercise some tolerance and understanding here - and if people choose not to have this equipment on board it does not make them any purer or "better" a sailor than someone who does - let's cut the snobbery!
 
Well, if you want to have all those toys on your boat, and I don't say you shouldn't have them, maybe you should be looking at having a power supply that can deliver what is necessary without running a generator very often?

A large domestic battery bank and and seperate starter battery would be a start, and an inverter say about 3.5kw, also a pair of alternators on your engine that can deliver via an intelligent charging system enough amps PDQ.

All this technology is freely available, and narrowboats have been using it on canals for many years. They are not allowed to run generators between (approx) 8pm and 7am, all you need to do is a bit of motor sailing and you have enough electrickery to last you through the night and then some, no need for anybody else to be annoyed or inconvenienced by your thirst for power.
 
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maybe you should be looking at having a power supply that can deliver what is necessary

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...or use appropriate low consumption equipment. My CF18 compressor coolbox runs just fine off my 30 Watt solar panel in summer.
 
Too touchy I think, why should you impose what you think is right on other peeps? You dont say how long they were running for, a couple of hours? all night?
Most gennies nowadays are so quiet that they can hardly be heard. I run one occassionaly when I want to watch something on the box, or put a bit back in my house bank. 72 db max and we can hardly hear it in the saloon.
Stu
 
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A lot of large power users have inverters far in excess of 3.5kva total output. A large battery bank needs even more charging or generator time. It may however help in deciding 'when' to charge the batteries.
 
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I agree that running a generator in a quiet anchorage is pretty inconsiderate but there could be good reasons for needing to run a generator eg batteries so flat that engines unlikely to start the next day, people who have to use daily injectable drugs that require to be kept at a constant low temperature, needing to work from boat.

We need to run a fridge to keep my wife's medicines cool and we have been in a far corner of an anchorage running a genny, boat comes in and out of the 1/2 mile square of good anchorage proceeds to anchor right next to us, and then complains about the genny, I ended up moving away.
It is a problem, just needs all parties to be reasonable and minimise disruption.where possible but also other boaters to recognise other peoples needs as well.
 
Stu - if I couldn't hear the gennies their wouldn't be a problem would there /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif


I think that you have hit the nail on the head with your comment that YOU can hardly hear it in saloon. Feel sorry if any of your neighbours wanted to sit out in their cockpits.
I think that the right to some peace and quiet on your boat is greater than the right to have generator noise imposed on you by others.
 
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